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Topic: Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?
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Cosmored
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I'm still trying to figure out why WW1 started. I think oil was a big factor.

https://www.newsmax.com/hansbaumann/oil-world-war-i-britian/2019/02/05/id/901330/
http://oilgeopolitics.net/History/Oil_and_the_Origins_of_World_W/oil_and_the_origins_of_world_w.HTM
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=157423&sid=2e0d21e1fc28002720f3d258e84588ef
https://www.bing.com/search?q=cause+if+ww1+oil+archives&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=cause+if+ww1+oil+archives&sc=7-25&sk=&cvid=59D0F1D00B314340B4512F84C48DD085&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&ghpl=


If you use Google to do research, all you get is mainstream stuff. I've been using Bing and I've been finding a lot more stuff that looks objective.

https://www.bing.com/
Post Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:45 pm 
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Cosmored
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Another video that got deleted from YouTube for being too informative...


Gerd Schultze Rhonhof on "The War That Had Many Fathers"

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=The+War+That+Had+Many+Fathers+(WW2+Revisionism)+by+Gerd+Schulze+Rhonhof&docid=608002837996654140&mid=84D32FDE946481CA209C84D32FDE946481CA209C&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

https://archive.org/details/SchultzeRhonhofManyFathersWPermanentSubtitles
Post Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:12 am 
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Cosmored
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There's footage of the liberation of a concentration camp in this old newsreel.

"COMBAT BULLETIN 36” 1945 ARMY PICTORIAL FILM CONCENTRATION CAMPS & GERMAN ATROCITIES XD52274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go2bwt-


It shows the usual footage of bodies being buried in mass graves. It attributes the deaths to starvation and typhus. It makes no mention of gas chambers.

It does mention medical experiments performed on prisoners. I'm still wondering how much of that issue is true. It might all be true and it might have been exaggerated but I kind of doubt that it was totally false. Back in the seventies a jewish woman who lived across the street from my grandmother in Miami married an old jewish guy from Poland. She told me that he'd told her that the Germans had performed experiments on him when he was an inmate at a concentration camp. She said they removed his stomach. I had a meal with them once and he did in fact eat like a bird.

I don't see how to what extent the medical experiment issue is true can be determined.
Post Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:03 am 
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Cosmored
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This is interesting.


David Irving - The Hidden History of WW II
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=david+irving&&view=detail&mid=1927433520EB69F51F181927433520EB69F51F18&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Ddavid%2Birving%26FORM%3DHDRSC3


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=david+irving&FORM=HDRSC3
Post Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:35 am 
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Cosmored
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This guy gives some info on Russian planes that I'd never seen before. The title is in Spanish but the video is in English.

Aviones Rusos De La Segunda Guerra Mundial | El legendario piloto de pruebas Eric Winkle Brown habla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32_BliefkGw&t=3441s


This one is good too.

Aviones alemanes de última generación de la Segunda Guerra Mundial | SERIE COMPLETA | Me 323 Gigant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCgmIL0w2Qs
Post Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:43 pm 
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Cosmored
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I saw this post on a forum which shows orthodox Jews protesting Zionism.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/hitlers-jew-hatred-holocaust-denial.609023/page-28#post-1074270775

Here's the website I saw on one their signs.
https://www.nkusa.org/

This is a link I found in that site.
https://www.israelversusjudaism.org/
Post Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:34 am 
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There's a real war on Holocaust revisionism. Check out this article.

Defense Department Booklet Targets Holocaust Revisionism
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p28_staff.html


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Here are some more articles.
https://www.unz.com/page/world-war-ii-articles/
Post Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:54 am 
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Cosmored
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Start watching this at the 43:55 time mark.

DAVID IRVING - THE MANIPULATION OF HISTORY
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bNmOZGlGnbCC/


I found that video here.
https://www.unz.com/announcement/the-remarkable-historiography-of-david-irving/
https://www.unz.com/page/world-war-ii-articles/
Post Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:21 am 
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PART 10: Nazism and the German economic miracle
http://www.henryckliu.com/page105.html


The other nine parts can be found here.
https://www.henryckliu.com/
Post Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:09 am 
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Fake Nazi Quotations
https://www.ihr.org/other/weber2011fakequotations.html
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By Mark Weber

Quotations falsely attributed to Hitler and other Third Reich leaders have been widely circulated for years. Such quotes are often used by polemicists -- of both the left and the right -- to discredit their ideological adversaries by showing that Nazis held similar views. This tactic works because people have been educated to believe that anything Hitler and other Nazi leaders thought or said was malevolent, wrong-headed or evil, and that no reasonable or ethical person could hold similar views.

Here's a look at a few of the many remarks falsely attributed to Hitler and other top Nazis.

Goebbels: 'Truth is the Enemy of the State'

Hitler's propaganda chief, Joseph Goebbels, supposedly said:

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Rush Limbaugh, the popular American radio commentator, is just one of the many influential Americans who has cited this quotation. During a May 2007 radio broadcast he claimed that these remarks are "from Hitler's war room, the Nazi spinmeister-in-chief, Joseph Goebbels," who was "speaking for his cronies in the Nazi party." Limbaugh went on to claim that American "Democrat Party" leaders were using "a version" of Goebbels' technique to try to "repress dissent." And in January 2011 US Congressman Steve Cohen, a Democratic party politician of Tennessee, accused Republicans of propagating "a big lie, just like Goebbels" about a proposed national health care plan.

No one has been able to cite a source for this infamous “big lie” quote. That’s because Goebbels never wrote or uttered those words. His views were actually quite different than what this quotation suggests.

He consistently held that, to be effective, propaganda must be accurate and truthful. In an address given in September 1934 in Nuremberg, Goebbels said: “Good propaganda does not need to lie; indeed it may not lie. It has no reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run.”

In an article written in 1941, he cited examples of false British wartime claims, and went on to charge that British propagandists had adopted the "big lie" technique that Hitler had identified and condemned in his book Mein Kampf. Goebbels wrote: "The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous."
Post Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:16 am 
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Cosmored
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Here's something I just came across.

Hitler the Peacemaker
David L. Hoggan’s The Forced War
Part 1

https://counter-currents.com/2023/12/hitler-the-peacemaker-part-1/
https://counter-currents.com/2023/12/hitler-the-peacemaker-part-2/
https://counter-currents.com/2023/12/hitler-the-peacemaker-part-3/
https://counter-currents.com/2023/12/hitler-the-peacemaker-part-4/
https://counter-currents.com/2023/12/hitler-the-peacemaker-part-5/


Hoggan, David - The Forced War - When peaceful Revision failed (2007)
https://archive.org/details/HogganDavidTheForcedWarWhenPeacefulRevisionFailedEN2007348S.Text/mode/2up
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