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LakeWoman50
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I hate election years! I was displeased by the 2000 election, but clinically depressed after 2004. The most upsetting bit was the new feel of hate I had for a large chunk of this country. Hating America for the first time literally broke my heart and I stayed in bed for days. I love this country too much to see it hijacked by religious fanatics.

Sometimes in this election, I feel like there's hope again. Like our country can rise up to be its best. Like those scars will be soothed. If Obama dies in office, I will be inconsolable. Possibly worse than what people report for the day JFK died. Biden seems qualified, but holy shit: Inconsolable.

Yet on other days, disgust bubbles up and I expect McCain to win -- despite the lead, despite the obvious economic disadvantages, despite the ideological stubbornness for unlimited war. I am not a person accustom to hatred, so it upsets me when I feel like I cannot coexist with a large chunk of my country. I don't think I'll be sad if McCain wins, I worry that I'll be as bitter and pessimistic as they are.

Do you watch campaign videos and compare the crowds? Why is there so much boo'ing at McCain rallies? Their campaign is based on hate. I feel proud that ours is based on hope, and I'm clinging to the possibility that good will win. Lets all be fair winners and losers.

As I've said before, I am good at seeing both sides and finding compromise. So I have to ask myself, how is my divisiveness different from the KKK supporter who will be depressed if a Muslim socialist like Obama wins? Won't they be just as upset? People pick a candidate based on their values, and I can't blame them for being brainwashed by a monotheistic, misogynistic, heteronormative culture. We mustn't paint the opponent as a villain.

Unless he really is one, and then by all means -- macro that fucker up -- because come November 4th, I think we have a chance. The alternative is worse than the worst Disney move ever. I hope we can win this thing for the better for all America!
Post Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:29 pm 
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Ryan Eashoo
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In case u didn't know OBAMA WON!

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Post Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:45 pm 
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Dave Starr
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Ryan, do you honestly think he can deliver on every one of his campaign promises?

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Post Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:25 pm 
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JoeMama
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Dave, at this point it doesn't matter if he delivers or not. The election is over, now's the time to gather our strengths behind a new administration. In four years we'll all be able to remember this week as a new era. I just hope everyone voted and isn't casting blame or responsibility unless they intend to shoulder it as well.
Post Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:25 pm 
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Adam Ford
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quote:
JoeMama schreef:
Dave, at this point it doesn't matter if he delivers or not. The election is over, now's the time to gather our strengths behind a new administration. In four years we'll all be able to remember this week as a new era.


Or as a continuation of a path towards disaster.
Post Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:30 pm 
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FStar
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Can this country change? It already has - for the better!
Post Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:18 pm 
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Dave Starr
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Stock market bombing, auto industry on the verge of total failure, banks failing, national debt growing wildly due to "bailouts". Yup; things are really better.


Yeah, I know, it's all Bush's fault and it will be for the next 4 years.

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Pushing buttons sure can be fun.

When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.

Paddle faster, I hear banjos.
Post Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:26 pm 
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Adam
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quote:
FStar schreef:
Can this country change? It already has - for the better!


Yeah if you think like Al Qaeda. Our economy is tanking if you haven't noticed. Obama's bailout is not working!
Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:04 pm 
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obamas bailout????? do you read the news?????
he ain't the president yet. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:40 pm 
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Adam
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He voted for it. Did you read the news?
Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:24 pm 
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Dave Starr
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Did he actually vote "yes", or "present"?

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Pushing buttons sure can be fun.

When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.

Paddle faster, I hear banjos.
Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:44 pm 
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more simple republican doublespeak...how many others voted to
help americans which you call a bailout.....it's obamas fault though.right??

sorry kats, that hannity crap is out the door!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:18 pm 
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Dave Starr
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No dissenting points of view will be allowed, right?

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Pushing buttons sure can be fun.

When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.

Paddle faster, I hear banjos.
Post Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:01 am 
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Adam
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quote:
back again schreef:
more simple republican doublespeak...how many others voted to
help americans which you call a bailout.....it's obamas fault though.right??

sorry kats, that hannity crap is out the door!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


It's all their fault. If they wanted to help Americans they should have cut the check to the american taxpayers.
Post Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:45 am 
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why sure dave. dissent all you wish..this is america!!!!!
we tried it your way now america is broke... Smile Surprised Surprised
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