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Brother WilliamX
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I believe that it would save money as far as the inmate
population, and it would cut down on murder. I use to
be against Death Row until our small children became
victims of drive by, and other kinds of criminal activities
that has taken these small children lifes that was sleep.
What about people who commit home invasions where
as a elder woman is beaten, raped, and then murdered?
With our tax dollars we are supporting everything else that
we are forced to support by our Government. So why not
support something that will protect our Family's well-being,
and we will know that the person is in prison living like
Martha Stewart, or one of the Kennedys.
Most of us is and will be against it until it hit homebase,
and then we want action taken. |
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:16 pm |
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Adam Ford
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:06 pm |
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andi03
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| I don't know Brother...considering that if Capital Punishment was brought back they have to have an automatic appeal. At least that is my impression, due to a bunch of states doing so. |
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:44 am |
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kryskattan
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:33 am |
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andi03
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***Just ask victims of sexual assault, death is not seen as a punishment.***
Nope you're right, we'd like to see them become "Bubba's Best Friend" and be on the other end of things. |
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:41 am |
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Brother WilliamX
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Well, each one of you do have the rights to your own opinion,
But me I see a complete different picture, and I will NOT feel
sorry or someone who have raped, or killed anyone in my family.
Feeling sorry is the world's problem today.
If I am in my home at the time of a break in. I am down stairs
in the basement, and maybe my wife or girkfriend is on the
second floor. Someone breaks into my home goes upstairs an
rape or kill my ladie, and I walk in on him I will empty my 9mm
in his ass.
However, what about the criminals that gets away with a crime.
Most be bragging to others about what they have done, and the
law never catch them. Now back to my original statement lets
say the criminal do get caught, meets his judgement day, and
get life in prison living behind bars at tax payers expense.
AS a professional person I see and hear different emotional
feelings. Why should a victim feel sorry and scared? Most of
you are against the death sentence because the crime did not
happen to you or someone that's close to you.
But wait until it happens to your wive or husband, son or your
daughter, your grand parents. Will you be talking that bs then?
I don't think so.
So from the replies that I have gotten most of you would for
a criminal to live easy in prison for taking someone's life,
then to pay the system to remove that person from society?
I do understand that there has been some sentence to death
that was innocent, but maybe that person was innocent of the
supposed crime, and yet has a criminal report as long as I-75.
I believe that a innocent person life can have a big impact on
situations, and for those who record is clean as a sheet I have
no explanation.
So in closing I feel that its better for the person who commits
the crime to be dead then me. Sure the death penalty won't
stop the crime, but it would make the criminals think, and
being sexually assaulted isn't the same as being murdered. |
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:24 am |
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kryskattan
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:19 pm |
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Dave Starr
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| A better punishment than death would be live without parole in solitary confinement. |
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I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos. |
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:25 pm |
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Brother WilliamX
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kryskattan, I do respect everything you have said, and how
you might feel, but I see things different, and my statement
concerning taking the law into my own hands just being and
feeling human.
[quote=Dave Starr] A better punishment than death would
be live without parole in solitary confinement.[/quote]
Hahaha Dave, are you serious? Life without parole in solitary
confinement? Come on Bro, Today's meaning of solitary
confinement is like living on a beach in prison. Again, like
I said you all is saying that now, but what about when this
situation hits your own doorsteps?
Kry, a rape is a bad thing, but rape and murder is completely
different. It has been many debates about rape. There is
date rape, and there is consent rape. Kry, your statement
about it wouldn't help the healing process of their victims.
You are right Kry, but from that point the victim will need
mental help, and not people drowning them by feeling sorry
for them. Again, Kry, I can not show my clients pity, but its
what I can do to help them, and I am not assuming I see
facts everyday.
[qoute=kryskattan] And again, how is death a suitable
punishment for someone who has left someone else to live
with the violence that was done to them?[/quote]
In the bible it statement Live by the sword..die by the sword.
Meaning the way you live is how you die. Kry, your above
quote isn't understandable. How is death a suitable punishment
for someone (who has left someone else to live with violence that
was done to them)?
Death is suitable or anyone who took another human life,
and I am sure that the family or friends would feel a relief
to know the justice was served. However, if Justice was not
served. Then that's where the burden would take place.
I have to drive up to Mt Clemons next Wednesday to a
murder trial. Where in Warren My Cousin and his Girlfriend
lifes was taken by ambuse, and the clown was the girl's
ex-boyfriend. Pre-meditated murder means even if a person
thought about doing something wrong. They had time to think
it out before committing the crime.
In closing, you all have your thoughts, and I have mine. |
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BrotherWilliamX
CitizensAgainstCorruptedPoliticians
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:50 pm |
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kryskattan
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:58 pm |
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Dave Starr
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quote:
Brother WilliamX schreef:
Hahaha Dave, are you serious? Life without parole in solitary
confinement? Come on Bro, Today's meaning of solitary
confinement is like living on a beach in prison. Again, like
I said you all is saying that now, but what about when this
situation hits your own doorsteps?
Solitary confinement in an 8x8 cell with no windows. 2 meals a day, prisoner allowed 1 shower per week, and one hour of solitary exercise per day. 23 hours per day in the cell, no tv, only reading material allowed is a Bible or Koran.
It hit my doorstep in 96, when a 16 year old beat my wife almost to death in an attempted car jacking in our driveway. He did 8 years of a 7-15 sentence. |
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I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos. |
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:38 pm |
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Brother WilliamX
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quote:
Dave Starr schreef:
quote:
Brother WilliamX schreef:
Hahaha Dave, are you serious? Life without parole in solitary
confinement? Come on Bro, Today's meaning of solitary
confinement is like living on a beach in prison. Again, like
I said you all is saying that now, but what about when this
situation hits your own doorsteps?
Solitary confinement in an 8x8 cell with no windows. 2 meals a day, prisoner allowed 1 shower per week, and one hour of solitary exercise per day. 23 hours per day in the cell, no tv, only reading material allowed is a Bible or Koran.
It hit my doorstep in 96, when a 16 year old beat my wife almost to death in an attempted car jacking in our driveway. He did 8 years of a 7-15 sentence.
Aww Dave, Sorry to read that about your wife. really man I am.
Okay Dave, I see your point, but I feel that someone like that
16 year old boy should have received a harder sentence, and I
do hope that she is well today. |
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BrotherWilliamX
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:52 pm |
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Brother WilliamX
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quote:
KrysKattan schreef:
Consent rape? Isn't that an oxymoron??
I'm assuming you've never been raped. That being said, you
are quoting the Bible to me about this, which means you are
starting to make no sense. I'm not the only person who believes
what I have to say about it, too many people feel it everyday.
I don't know why you keep bringing up "feeling sorry for them."
And other things like pity. Is help and healing instead of revenge
and anger "pity?" A victim doesn't deserve nor want pity.
The Bible also says something about revenge doesn't it?
I think my statement is very understandable. Sorry if you don't.
First of all Lady, I am a Father of Three Daughters, and two Sons.
My Baby girl was on a date (at the age of 17), and she is 27 now.
She came home late one night crying, and claiming that she was
raped. Of course that started a chain reaction of feelings, and
emotions against her ex-boyfriend.
My Wife and I went through four weeks of pure hell, but the real
truth came out into the open, and the truth was she had gave the
boy consent to have sex with her. However, that was not the story
in the beginning, and that's why I used the word Consent.
Now since becoming a Mental Health Counselor. I do have senses
enough to know the damn differances between a Consent and a
Force rape case.
Please don't twist what I posted into your meaning, and like
I said [quote="Brother WilliamX] In the bible it statement
Live by the sword..die by the sword. (Meaning the way you live
is how you die). and now that it seems like you have a attitude.
I do not know how can you get an attitude about your own
statement. You are the one who posted (And again, how is
death a suitable punishment for someone who has left some
one else to live with the violence that was done to them)?, and
all I asked you about your suitable death comment .
In closing, I am going to take back my pity statement, and
allow you to have things your way. But believe me sympathy,
and empathy has two different meaning, and now its you who
do not understand what I am saying. That makes us even. |
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BrotherWilliamX
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:42 pm |
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kryskattan
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:13 pm |
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Brother WilliamX
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You know what Krys I have never been a good guy when it
to pointing out what I said, or how I posted my opinion on
a internet forum. You're the one who do not know the law
term....Consented Rape, and yet you want to jump me due
to the fact that Consented Rape...is giving it up freewill.
There is hundreds of men in prison today. Because they
was convicted of rape, and the female had gave permission.
Now since you wanna open a can of worms Sexually Abuse
is alot different the Consent rape or Date rape.
Most Sexual Abused women are sexually abused by some
one who is close to them. Sexually Abuse rape means sex
taken by force. Which in most cases includes physicial
abuse.
Who have tried to change your statement, and frankly I
can say if I was to get nasty and unprofessional about it
I can stand who gives a damn if you are right or not?
Just becaause you are stuck in your ways. Do not mean
that I have to agree with you or you have to agree with me.
In closing, I do not get attitudes, but I will not stand anyone
(especially a woman) to try to dog me out, due to the fact that
she don't understand, and its a good thing that you do not
have anything against me. Because I have not given you a
reason to have a attitude with me. I am glad that you are not
12 years old with your smart ass, and nobody said or thought
that you was 12 years old.
Now a un-necessary remark like that was un-called for, and
that's the very reason why I am dealing with you with respect.
From this point on you have joined Adam and David when it
comes to me.
Now Good Night to My forum Friends in the Flint area, and I
do hope that you all will have a safe weekend. |
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BrotherWilliamX
CitizensAgainstCorruptedPoliticians
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