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Post Fri May 23, 2008 11:20 am 
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Ah, Exodus International and NARTH what a lovely group of wonderful people, accepting people for the way that they are.....<sarcasm/off>

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/07/19/gaytherapy/
http://www.soulforce.org/article/1279

When a person starts praying for others to become assimilated to main stream society, they forget their own soul in this selfish endeavour.

Public D....I could go on and on, this subject just riles me to no end.....<grumble>

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Post Sun May 25, 2008 7:07 am 
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True dat, Andie03. :?

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Post Sun May 25, 2008 9:57 am 
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Andrea or Andi is fine. Smile

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True dat, Andi :D

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Post Sun May 25, 2008 10:09 am 
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Ah, Exodus International and NARTH what a lovely group of wonderful people, accepting people for the way that they are.....<sarcasm/off>

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/07/19/gaytherapy/
http://www.soulforce.org/article/1279

When a person starts praying for others to become assimilated to main stream society, they forget their own soul in this selfish endeavour.

Public D....I could go on and on, this subject just riles me to no end.....<grumble>


Our culture does not accept people the way they are. For example it's common knowlegde that child abuse can cause problems later in life but those people are still convicted just like everyone else.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexual

If Hitler would have just given or paid Jewish women like we commonly do in black neighborhoods would that have been o.k.? Some people debate how many Jews were killed but I have never heard anyone debate that 5 million blacks have died at the abortion clinic.

Hitler also carried out some gruesome experiments but isn't standing by watching a human baby suffer and die pretty gruesome which Obama supports. Some pro-abortion groups don't even support that.

There are some wacko Christian groups out there but not all Christian viewpoints should be immediately discounted because of the few black sheep.

What if someone is homosexual or prone to sex crimes because of child abuse. Shouldn't we have some counseling/intervention programs for them?
Post Sun May 25, 2008 10:28 am 
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Um, the argument that you are presenting is tantamount to comparing apples and oranges. Possibly, hijacking the thread? Smile

The original topic was homosexuality, not "Chester the Molester" or any other topic.

I know that you and I agree about Papal infallibility and the like, but even the Pope/The German Shepard agreed that homosexuality does not equate to pedophelia (sp).

We are talking about two people of the same sex loving each other.

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http://www.beliefnet.com/story/130/story_13022_3.html

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Public D? Let's meet for coffee and discuss about renouncing things.....dooyooowanna? Smile

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Post Sun May 25, 2008 10:46 am 
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Hitler, abortion, and child sexual predators is your response to this? Maybe you should be at church right now. Unbelievable.

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Um, the argument that you are presenting is tantamount to comparing apples and oranges. Possibly, hijacking the thread? Smile

The original topic was homosexuality, not "Chester the Molester" or any other topic.

I know that you and I agree about Papal infallibility and the like, but even the Pope/The German Shepard agreed that homosexuality does not equate to pedophelia (sp).

We are talking about two people of the same sex loving each other.

"I welcome Gene Robinson. I am proud to be part of this church."
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/130/story_13022_3.html


Theocracy does relate to all moral issues.

My church (Orthodox) does not accept Papal infallibility although if we were to unify the Bishop of Rome would be First among equals. http://atheism.about.com/od/popejohnpaulii/a/homosexuality.htm I wasn't equating homosexuality to pedophilia. I was saying people who are sexually abused may be more likely to become homosexual in addition to becoming more likely to become abusers themselves. Obviously being abused does not specifically cause someone to abuse but it may make them more prone to it.

I'm not sure if you have any kids but it almost seems to me like young girls are almost encouraged/pressured to participate in homosexual behavior. Some people may be naturally drawn to homosexuality but I'd prefer to prevent abuse that leads people towards homosexuality.
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Hitler, abortion, and child sexual predators is your response to this? Maybe you should be at church right now. Unbelievable.


I think common Christian values do have a place in our society. I do equate murdering babies with murdering jews because they are both human beings. I do equate evil nazi experiments with leaving babies out to die because they are both reprehensible to me. Perhaps if you sat an watched a baby die while being intentionally deprived medical care you would reconsider your opposition to Christian thoecracy.

Margaret Sanger and Adolph hitler did support the eugenics concept http://www.acts1711.com/sanger.htm which is why it's tempting for me to tie the two together. Barrack Obama is a die hard abortion supporter even more so than some abortion groups and supported leaving babies on the shelf to die in Illinois. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18647

The eugenics movement is notoriorious for targeting black neighborhoods.
Post Sun May 25, 2008 12:22 pm 
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The German Shepard agreed that homosexuality does not equate to pedophelia (sp). REALLY ??????Confused Rolling Eyes

I wonder who these folks will get beh ind .???? My guess would be probably not Mccain Laughing Laughing http://www.nambla.org/

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****My church (Orthodox) does not accept Papal infallibility although if we were to unify the Bishop of Rome would be First among equals. http://atheism.about.com/od/popejohnpaulii/a/homosexuality.htm I wasn't equating homosexuality to pedophilia. I was saying people who are sexually abused may be more likely to become homosexual in addition to becoming more likely to become abusers themselves. Obviously being abused does not specifically cause someone to abuse but it may make them more prone to it.****

I am glad that you quoted Austin, he's a nice guy.

*****I'm not sure if you have any kids but it almost seems to me like young girls are almost encouraged/pressured to participate in homosexual behavior. Some people may be naturally drawn to homosexuality but I'd prefer to prevent abuse that leads people towards homosexuality.*****

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The German Shepard agreed that homosexuality does not equate to pedophelia (sp). REALLY ??????Confused Rolling Eyes

I wonder who these folks will get beh ind .???? My guess would be probably not Mccain Laughing Laughing http://www.nambla.org/


Maybe I am mistaken, that's what I thought that I had heard....oy. Crud, better do my homework a little better....sorry. Now back to the middle ages, eh? Smile

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Hitler also carried out some gruesome experiments but isn't standing by watching a human baby suffer and die pretty gruesome which Obama supports. Some pro-abortion groups don't even support that.



Indeed, I heard Obama say just today that he spent Memorial day watching human babies suffer and die gruesomely. Widespread support for the activity has led him to add it to his platform.

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