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Ryan Eashoo
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State trooper shoots man fleeing from traffic stop in Flint
by David Harris | The Flint Journal
Sunday December 28, 2008, 2:55 PM
FLINT, Michigan -- A Michigan State Police Trooper shot a suspect after he fled from the scene of a traffic stop around 10 p.m. Saturday on Stewart Avenue near Dupont Street in Flint.


According to police, the suspect was armed with a handgun and tried to exit the vehicle.

The man was treated for a non-life threatening wound and now is in the Genesee County Jail, state police said.

The suspect, whose name was not released, is expected to be arraigned on criminal charges on Monday.

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Post Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:45 am 
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andi03
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Um, how do you know that the man that exited the vehicle still didn't have the gun with him? Hmmmm....
Post Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:09 am 
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Silly girl everyone knows the trooper shot the gun out of his hand just like in the movies. Laughing

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Post Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:57 am 
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andi03
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Oh...I am silly, I am sure the witnesses heard that ricochet sound like in the Good Bad and the Ugly...you know the sound...."pa-Ting"
Post Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:04 pm 
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In 1985 there was a U.S. Supreme court case called TennesseeVS Garner. The case was based on a residential burglary in Memphis TN where Memphis police officers shot and killed a 15 year who fled when they responded to a residential burgalry call. The family sued and the case went to the supreme court. The court ruled that officers can only use deadly force on a fleeing person if the officer reasonably believes that the escape of the person would pose the imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm to others. If the fleeing subject in this cae did in fact have a handgun, I would say the trooper had a reasonable belief that he posed a threat of death or serious bodily harm. Based on what is written, it sounds like a justified shoot.

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Post Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:13 pm 
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Oh geesh, now we're worrying about violating the civil rights of criminals. Typical crap that makes Flint what it is today. If the guy was fleeing a traffic stop there was probably justifiable cause to conclude he is a violent criminal. Shoot.....first and fast...or take the chance of that person killing an INNOCENT victim. Easy decision.
Post Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:24 pm 
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andi03
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stratton, I wasn't trying to hold hands and sing some hymns over this guy's utter and sheer moronic behaviour. Wink
Post Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:53 pm 
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Ryan Eashoo
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I agree Stratton!



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strattonsigns schreef:
Oh geesh, now we're worrying about violating the civil rights of criminals. Typical crap that makes Flint what it is today. If the guy was fleeing a traffic stop there was probably justifiable cause to conclude he is a violent criminal. Shoot.....first and fast...or take the chance of that person killing an INNOCENT victim. Easy decision.

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Post Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:11 pm 
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strattonsigns
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My definition of Cruel and unusual punishment is running out of bullets when shooting a felon.
Post Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:30 pm 
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back again
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have any of the felon shooters ever shot a human?
Post Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:17 pm 
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