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Ryan Eashoo
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Senate to Middle Class: Drop Dead

Friday, December 12th, 2008

Friends,

They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers start building only cars and mass transit that reduce our dependency on oil.

They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers build cars that reduce global warming.

They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers withdraw their many lawsuits against state governments in their attempts to not comply with our environmental laws.

They could have given the loan on the condition that the management team which drove these once-great manufacturers into the ground resign and be replaced with a team who understands the transportation needs of the 21st century.

Yes, they could have given the loan for any of these reasons because, in the end, to lose our manufacturing infrastructure and throw 3 million people out of work would be a catastrophe.

But instead, the Senate said, we'll give you the loan only if the factory workers take a $20 an hour cut in wages, pension and health care. That's right. After giving BILLIONS to Wall Street hucksters and criminal investment bankers -- billions with no strings attached and, as we have since learned, no oversight whatsoever -- the Senate decided it is more important to break a union, more important to throw middle class wage earners into the ranks of the working poor than to prevent the total collapse of industrial America.

We have a little more than a month to go of this madness. As I sit here in Michigan today, tens of thousands of hard working, honest, decent Americans do not believe they can make it to January 20th. The malaise here is astounding. Why must they suffer because of the mistakes of every CEO from Roger Smith to Rick Wagoner? Make management and the boards of directors and the shareholders pay for this.

Of course that is heresy to the 31 Republicans who decided to blame the poor, miserable autoworkers for this mess. And our wonderful media complied with their spin on the morning news shows: "UAW Refuses to Give Concessions Killing Auto Bailout Bill." In fact the UAW has given concession after concession, reduced their benefits, agreed to get rid of the Jobs Bank and agreed to make it harder for their retirees to live from week to week. Yes! That's what we need to do! It's the Jobs Bank and the old people who have led the nation to economic ruin!

But even doing all that wasn't enough to satisfy the bastard Republicans. These Senate vampires wanted blood. Blue collar blood. You see, they weren't opposed to the bailout because they believed in the free market or capitalism. No, they were opposed to the bailout because they're opposed to workers making a decent wage. In their rage, they were driven to destroy the backbone of this country, not because the UAW hadn't given back enough, but because the UAW hadn't given up.

It appears that the sitting President has been looking for a way to end his reign by one magnanimous act, just like a warlord on his feast day. He will put his finger in the dyke, and the fragile mess of an auto industry will eke through the next few months.

That will give the Senate enough time to demand that the bankers and investment sharks who've already swiped nearly half of the $700 billion gift a chance to make the offer of cutting their pay.

Fat chance.

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com


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Post Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:58 pm 
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andi03
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Oy....let's be fair here Michael...there were 10 Repubs that voted for this and even Nancy Pelosi was against the passage of this bill/bull up until 2 weeks ago....

roll call vote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081212/ap_on_go_co/senate_rollcall_autos
Post Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:46 pm 
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Ryan Eashoo
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lol

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Dave Starr
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I'd like to see GM just lock the doors & walk away for a month or so. Let congress see the results.

On a positive note, I won't have to pay income tax any more, since I'd have no taxable income. Between social security & the underground economy I mght have a chance to stay out of bankruptcy court. If not, oh, well.

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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:24 pm 
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Ryan Eashoo
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Dave its tought for everyone right now, I hope it gets better soon!


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Dave Starr schreef:
I'd like to see GM just lock the doors & walk away for a month or so. Let congress see the results.

On a positive note, I won't have to pay income tax any more, since I'd have no taxable income. Between social security & the underground economy I mght have a chance to stay out of bankruptcy court. If not, oh, well.

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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:38 pm 
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twotap
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It aint tough for mr anticapitalist fat boy Mike. He will just make another dumbass "documentary" you sheeple will flock to it and all will be well at torch lake. Laughing

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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:41 pm 
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back again
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"roger and me" was right on the mark!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:17 pm 
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FlintConservative
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quote:
andi03 schreef:
Oy....let's be fair here Michael...there were 10 Repubs that voted for this and even Nancy Pelosi was against the passage of this bill/bull up until 2 weeks ago....

roll call vote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081212/ap_on_go_co/senate_rollcall_autos


There were also 4 Dems voting against (Baucus, Lincoln, Reid & Tester) and 4 that didn't bother to vote (Biden, Kennedy, Kerry & Wyden).
Post Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:36 am 
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Ryan Eashoo
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FlintConservative: I don't care if your republican or democrat, all of them are crooks! They are out for themselfs and whoever bank rolls their campaigns.



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andi03 schreef:
Oy....let's be fair here Michael...there were 10 Repubs that voted for this and even Nancy Pelosi was against the passage of this bill/bull up until 2 weeks ago....

roll call vote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081212/ap_on_go_co/senate_rollcall_autos


There were also 4 Dems voting against (Baucus, Lincoln, Reid & Tester) and 4 that didn't bother to vote (Biden, Kennedy, Kerry & Wyden).

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Post Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:35 pm 
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Ryan Eashoo
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Remember in the movie where the GM Advisors says its possible that GM could elimate 10,000 jobs in flint, or even 25,000 jobs or ALL GM jobs in Flint. Watch the movie again, its right on!




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back again schreef:
"roger and me" was right on the mark!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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