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Cosmored
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This is good.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/tunisian-activists-protest-holocaust-display-calling-it-zionist-propaganda/
Post Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:59 pm 
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Cosmored
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I just came across this. The link only works with FireFox.

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=5560
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DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER published his Crusade in Europe in 1948. In 559 pages General Eisenhower does not mention the German gas chambers in which it was—and is--claimed that millions of Jews and others were “exterminated.”

WHY NOT?

Are you a student? Why do you think Dwight D. Eisenhower, the man who directed World War II against the Germans on the Western front, the celebrated General who would become President of the United States, would write a history of that war and not mention the greatest WMD (gas chambers) ever known to man? Do you think, maybe, it just slipped his mind?

Are you a professor? At the close of WWII it was claimed that four million victims were exterminated at Auschwitz alone. Keeping in mind that General Eisenhower did not mention gas chambers in his Crusade in Europe, can you provide, with proof, the name of one person killed in a gas chamber at Auschwitz? Do you believe it wrong, immoral perhaps, to ask this question? Tell me why. I can be reached at bradley1930@yahoo.com

Bradley Smith, Founder
Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust
http://www.codoh.com
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http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n2p19_Faurisson.html
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Three of the best known works on the Second World War are General Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe (New York: Doubleday [Country Life Press], 1948), Winston Churchill's The Second World War (London: Cassell, 6 vols., 1948-1954), and the Mémoires de guerre of General de Gaulle (Paris: Plon, 3 vols., 1954-1959). In these three works not the least mention of Nazi gas chambers is to be found.

Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi "gas chambers," a "genocide" of the Jews, or of "six million" Jewish victims of the war.
Post Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:18 am 
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Cosmored
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This was interesting.

Interview Nederlandse Waffen-SS veteraan - Documentaire - English subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT2_QKKxrPQ


Be sure to check out the comment section.
Post Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:17 am 
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Cosmored
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Another Holocaust video...


Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUcFPzzkuLM
Post Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:08 pm 
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Cosmored
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Check this out.

https://ericmargolis.com/2018/02/why-one-war-when-we-can-have-two/
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Few people know that it was France that first attacked Germany, not the other way around. Responding to the German invasion of Poland, France and Britain declared war on Germany. French divisions began to invade Germany’s Rhineland. But after a few skirmishes the French high command, under the inept Gen. Maurice Gamelin, didn’t know what to do next. Germany was large, and the defensive-minded French did not anticipate occupying its entire country.
After a brief demonstration, the French Army withdrew behind the Maginot Line. Hitler did not counter-attack in hope he could forge a peace treaty with London and Paris. Winston Churchill and his fellow imperialists furiously sought to push Britain into war with Germany. But months of inactivity went by, known as the ‘Sitzkrieg’ or ‘drôle de guerre’ until Germany acted decisively.
Post Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:52 am 
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Cosmored
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Two good articles.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n6p38_Bishop.html
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n4p30_Michaels.html
Post Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:44 am 
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Cosmored
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In this video...

Battlefied S2/E3 - The Battle for Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAfcOYKMPP4

...these two speeches of Hitler's are not mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf+Hitler%3A+Explains+His+Reasons+For+Invading+The+Soviet+Union&sm=12
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf+Hitler%3A+Explains+Reasons+For+Invading+Poland&sm=12


Those two speeches are a pretty relevant part of this history and omitting them grossly distorts the story and pretty much exposes the deceit of the mainstream information system. It's pretty clear that the winner writes the history and grossly distorts it.
Post Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:30 am 
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Cosmored
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Start watching this at the 3:40 time mark.

Sir Oswald Mosley | Interview | Thames Television | 1975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNhF28fzN9I


Here's a comment from the comment section on that particular issue.

"At this time in history Mosley did not know about the coming attack on Germany by the USSR. Germany reacted the only way it could and that was by attacking. Otherwise, I think Mosley would only blame the jew for the war."
Post Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:57 am 
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Cosmored
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At the 1:19 time mark of this video Hitler makes clear that he wants the return of Germany's colonies* which were taken after WW1.

Adolf Hitler talks about Czechoslovakia. Part 1.
https://archive.org/details/AdolfHitlerTalksAboutCzechoslovakia1291938Part1360p


Colonialism is evil so the fact that Hitler wants to continue having colonies makes him evil.


I wish I'd saved the time mark. Somewhere in this video...

Who started World War II - Version II/III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVuWdfoofp8


...it says that France and England saw Germany as a threat to their empires** and that's why France and England really declared war when Germany invaded Poland. Maybe Germany was planning to try to get its colonies back and England and France both knew it.

Germany and Britain were fighting in Libya during WW2. Maybe they both knew about the oil there. Why else would Italy, Germany, England and the US have been so interested in Libya? The allies ended up with the oil after the war.

http://libyasos.blogspot.com.es/2012/03/intervention-and-exploitation-us-and-uk.html
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Concessions on oil extraction is granted to two US oil companies. More companies would follow later.
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1961:
September - With the opening of a 167 km long pipe line, oil exportations start from Libya. US oil companies begin to reap huge profits, as do corrupt Libyan officials. Oil goes on to make a few in Libya very rich, but most of the populus do not benefit and remain poverty stricken. [1] [17]
Libya increases its share of oil profits from 50% to 70%.
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All we can do is speculate and try to talk to Arabians who know what was going on then I suppose. It looks to me like the Americans, British, Italians and Germans were all the bad guys in the battles that were taking place in Libya during WW2. They were fighting over the oil and the allies won. The good guys were the Libyans who finally got the benefit of the oil when Gadafi took over and stopped the theft of Libyian oil.


Outside of the US people view the US as the bad guy. Most political conversations I hear are based on this kind of info.
http://www.flinttalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=8585&highlight=imperialism



*
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/German_colonial_empire

**
https://www.pinterest.es/pin/256142297527448241
https://dinospain.deviantart.com/art/The-French-Colonial-Empire-533573475


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http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Global_Secrets_Lies/Qaddafi_NWO.html
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From 1911 to 1932, the country underwent a harrowing and unsuccessful war of national liberation against its Italian colonizers in which over a million Libyans lost their lives. After World War Il, the country was held "in trusteeship" by massive US and British military presence. Wheehus Air Base, near the ancient capital of Tripoli, became one of the largest US military installations in the world. The Semlssi royal family was kept in power, its readiness to serve imperial interests guaranteeing its position.
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https://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=gaddafi&x=15&y=10


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Post Mon May 14, 2018 6:20 am 
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Cosmored
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When I was about eight years old my dad told me a story about WW2. He told me that Philippino terrorists would come running out of the jungle and attack American guards with machetes. He told me that the guards had small caliber pistols, I think he said twenty five caliber. He that they could usually shoot the terrorist before he got close but he'd live long enough to strike a guard or two with the machete. The solution was to give the guards thirty eight caliber pistols which would stop them in their tracks.

I used to wonder about that. I thought the Americans were the good guys. Now I understand as I've talked to people from the Philippines and what they say is consistent with this info.


Prof. Noam Chomsky on Origins of torture and counterinsurgency (Part 7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDhw3CAxy-w

Noam Chomsky on Colonialism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zujsTKJGz0s
(1:20 time mark)

https://unitedstatesimperialism.wordpress.com/the-philippines/
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Before the Philippines were even considered being annexed there were some debate on whether or not to annex them. The people that were for annexing the islands argued that there were business interests in thoughts of new markets and fields of investments, the United States wanted to become an empire and so they wanted to expand more. USA, especially, didn’t want to lose these islands to Japan or Germany.
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https://www.google.es/search?q=us+imperialism+philippines&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjv5LL_05bbAhUIVRQKHaUYAdQQ_AUICSgA&biw=1024&bih=677&dpr=1


The Americans were the bad guys in the Philippines.
Post Mon May 21, 2018 6:09 am 
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Cosmored
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I saw these two films on TV in Madrid.

The Battle of Algiers (English Subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_N2wyq7fCE


La Batalla De Chile - Parte 1: La Insurrección De La Burguesía - Patricio Guzmán (1975)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7EmhbTf70c

The Battle of Chile Part 2 SUB INGLES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR8xNnHQq-M

La Batalla De Chile - Parte 3: El Poder Popular - Patricio Guzmán (1975)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWVqc4O0T4k


I saw this one at a cinema.

Ice (1970) Italian Subtitles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyQuE00dR-k


There's a cinema here that shows lots of movies that you would never know existed as they wouldn't pass the American censors.

https://www.google.es/search?rlz=1C1AOHY_esES720ES730&biw=1024&bih=677&ei=PtsLW9uYD8f36ASmxpOgBA&q=Filmoteca+Espa%C3%B1ola+madrid&oq=Filmoteca+Espa%C3%B1ola+madrid&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0j0i7i30k1j0j0i30k1l2j0i5i30k1j38l2.3952.12992.0.14732.4.4.0.0.0.0.142.484.1j3.4.0....0...1c.1j2.64.psy-ab..0.4.468...0i67k1j0i131k1j0i8i30k1.0.7QrxGulSf94


I've seen a lot of foreign films there that explain what's really happening in the world; I wish I'd written the names down.

I knew someone who worked in television and he told me that Hollywood had a black list of movies; those I posted above are on that list. If any cinema in the world shows any movie on that black list, Hollywood will stop letting them show it's latest movies. It would be a miracle if one of those films above were shown in the US. They are doing what they can to control the spread of objective information; they want to keep as many people as possible thinking inside the box.
Post Mon May 28, 2018 6:01 am 
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Cosmored
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This looked like it was worth posting.
https://www.quora.com/Did-Hitler-try-to-make-peace-with-Churchill-several-times
Post Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:49 am 
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Cosmored
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There's some stuff about WW1 in this article but it's a little vague.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v03/v03p-53_Barnes.html

It leaves a lot of unanswered questions. I'm still not clear on the real causes of WW1.
Post Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:44 pm 
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Cosmored
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This is a propaganda video.

Patton 360 Episode 10 (Crushing the Third Reich) Part 3/3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOGxklxsCUU

At the beginning the idea of "Death camps" is dealt with. Everything they show can be explained by typhus and starvation and shooting (which is reprehensible). There's nothing about gas chambers.


Here's some info about Patton that I already posted a few pages back.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/general-patton-after-ww-ii-we-defeated-the-wrong-enemy.468435/

The theory is that he was killed by the government because he'd spoken to German officers who spoke English who were POW's and learned what is explained in post #1 of this thread and was talking about it.
Post Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:41 pm 
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Cosmored
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Here's something about WW1.

https://ericmargolis.com/2018/11/we-are-heading-for-another-tragedy-like-world-war-i/
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Amid all the usual patriotic cant from politicians, imperialists and churchmen about the glories of this slaughter, remember that World War I was a contrived conflict that was totally avoidable. Contrary to the war propaganda that still clouds and corrupts our historical view, World War I was not started by Imperial Germany.

Professor Christopher Clark in his brilliant book, `The Sleepwalkers’ shows how officials and politicians in Britain and France conspired to transform Serbia’s murder of Austro-Hungary’s Crown Prince into a continent-wide conflict. France burned for revenge for its defeat in the 1870 Franco-Prussian War and loss of Alsace-Lorraine. Britain feared German commercial and naval competition. At the time, the British Empire controlled one quarter of the world’s surface. Italy longed to conquer Austria-Hungary’s South Tyrol. Turkey feared Russia’s desire for the Straits. Austria-Hungary feared Russian expansion.

Prof Clark clearly shows how the French and British maneuvered poorly-led Germany into the war. The Germans were petrified of being crushed between two hostile powers, France and Russia. The longer the Germans waited, the more the military odds turned against them. Tragically, Germany was then Europe’s leader in social justice.
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