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untanglingwebs
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The question is whether Flint failed to implement their bicycle program effectively and why was it disbanded?
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untanglingwebs
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http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/06/flint_police_open_four_suspici.html#incart_river
Flint police open four suspicious-death investigations in two days

Molly Young | myoung7@mlive.com By Molly Young | myoung7@mlive.com
on June 15, 2015 at 4:11 PM

MLive.com | File

FLINT, MI -- Flint police are investigating four deaths after three people were found dead in the city Sunday, followed by another Monday afternoon, June 15.

On Monday, a 36-year-old woman was found dead in the 700 block of Neubert Avenue, between Fenton Road and South Grand Traverse Street, around 12:30 p.m., according to City Spokesman Jason Lorenz.

No other details in that case were released.

Three others were found dead in the city on Sunday, June 14, on Middlesex Road, Bennett Avenue and Mackin Road. Lorenz said Flint police have opened investigations into each of these deaths, but did not release other details, such as ages of the deceased or if foul play was suspected.

"These are each being investigated as matters of routine, and the cases will remain open, pending autopsy results," Lorenz said.

No further information was immediately available.
Post Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:54 pm 
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untanglingwebs
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http://www.businessinsider.com/why-is-flint-michigan-dangerous-2013-6
Post Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:00 pm 
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untanglingwebs
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Law & Order More: Crime Violence Cities FBI 

How Flint, Michigan Became The Most Dangerous City In America

Christina Sterbenz and Erin Fuchs

Jun. 16, 2013, 12:11 PM


We've been ranking America's most dangerous cities for several years, and there's one city that keeps making the top of the list — Flint, Michigan.

Flint had 66 homicides in 2012, tying a record it hit two years ago.

Forbes has also ranked Flint as one of most dangerous places for women. The most striking attack of 2012 occurred when an 87-year-old woman was raped outside her home in broad daylight. She decided to leave Flint.

The city has probably changed a lot in that woman's lifetime. Flint hasn't always been this dangerous or depressing.

Flint had a booming auto industry in the mid-1900s. The United Automobile Workers, in its infancy, triumphed over industrial bigwig General Motors after a 1936 strike began an era of union labor. The people in Flint had stable work and earned decent money up until the late '70s.

GM's Flint operations employed 80,000 people in 1978. At the time, New York City had a reputation for being the most dangerous place in America — not Flint.

However, the tide started to turn for Flint in the '80s. That's when GM started setting up factories in Mexico and dramatically reduced its operations in Flint. By 2006 GM employed just 8,000 people in Flint, according to Flint's city manager.

With no major industry in Flint, the city's unemployment and poverty rates have soared as many people have fled the city. Here are some factors that contribute to making Flint a dangerous place:
• Flint only employed 122 police officers in 2012, down from 265 five years earlier because of budget cuts, Mlive.com reported. With 122 officers, Flint employs one officer for about every 830 people. Comparatively, New York City (which didn't even make the top 25 most dangerous cities) covers about 235 people per cop.
• According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Flint's unemployment rate rests as 16.0 percent. Though not as low as Detroit's, which rings in at 17.5 percent, Flint's lack of work doesn't bode well for the local economy. More than 38% of people there live below the poverty level, according to the most recent Census numbers. Poverty and crime are known to go hand in hand.
• Drugs are a known accelerant for crime, including violent crime. Heroin use has increased dramatically among people between 18 and 29, the Flint Journal reported in 2011. That year, two teenagers died of overdoses within three days of each other.

As things get worse in Flint, its population continues to drop off. There were nearly 125,000 people living there in 2000, but that number declined to roughly 101,000 by 2011. This decline suggests Flint is no longer a place where people want to live.

A news clip featured in Michael Moore's "Roger and Me" back in 1989 sums up how Flint's reputation has changed.

"Flint is best known for its principal industry," a newscaster said back then, referring to the auto industry. "But it's quickly gaining notoriety as a major crime center."


Now read about dangerous cities in a place that has a better reputation: Why 3 Of America's Most Dangerous Cities Are In Wealthy Connecticut »


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-is-flint-michigan-dangerous-2013-6#ixzz3e69SvjU3
Post Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:05 pm 
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untanglingwebs
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Key Issues :




With no major industry in Flint, the city's unemployment and poverty rates have soared as many people have fled the city. Here are some factors that contribute to making Flint a dangerous place:


• Flint only employed 122 police officers in 2012, down from 265 five years earlier because of budget cuts, Mlive.com reported. With 122 officers, Flint employs one officer for about every 830 people. Comparatively, New York City (which didn't even make the top 25 most dangerous cities) covers about 235 people per cop.

(The goal of the administration was to drop the police level to 85 officers. including command and other supervisors. The influx of State Police has not prevented the recent increase I rime)




• According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Flint's unemployment rate rests as 16.0 percent. Though not as low as Detroit's, which rings in at 17.5 percent, Flint's lack of work doesn't bode well for the local economy. More than 38% of people there live below the poverty level, according to the most recent Census numbers. Poverty and crime are known to go hand in hand.

(In past years there were multiple agencies with youth work and training programs, such as GCCAA and the schools. Now there is a Mott financed for teens through the Flint-Genesee Chamber of Commerce with a defined admittance.

In the 90's I spent time in Australia. I kept asking people why they were treating the native aborigines so badly, while openly accepting integrated aboriginal individuals and African Americans. The answer was always something to the effect, that the aborigines refused to give up their culture and adhere to the cultural norms of the white populace. Is this current training program any different?

The training program initiated needs to include the minorities in Flint and the surrounding areas. I was appalled at the video on one TV station announcing the program that only showed white participants. That is a historic problem in Flint when minorities were long denied apprenticeship programs. Leon El Amin, the GI Forum, Joe king and others are trying to break that pattern.)


• Drugs are a known accelerant for crime, including violent crime. Heroin use has increased dramatically among people between 18 and 29, the Flint Journal reported in 2011. That year, two teenagers died of overdoses within three days of each other.

(Suburban buyers frequent Flint to buy their heroin and other drugs. One active Chicago based gang is importing guns as well as drugs. Recently. two neighborhoods reported groups of young teens flaunting weapons. There is always a job in the drug trade. )

As things get worse in Flint, its population continues to drop off. There were nearly 125,000 people living there in 2000, but that number declined to roughly 101,000 by 2011. This decline suggests Flint is no longer a place where people want to live.


(The Census numbers are woefully missing the exodus out of Flint to the suburbs. I estimate thousands leaving when the Census Bureau estimates 871 in a year. They are leaving for better schools, lower water bills and fewer special assessments.)
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untanglingwebs
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http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/06/police_investigate_after_man_s.html

Police investigate shooting in Flint

Molly Young | myoung7@mlive.com By Molly Young | myoung7@mlive.com
on June 26, 2015 at 2:55 PM, updated June 26, 2015 at 4:30 PM



FLINT, MI -- Police were investigating a shooting in Flint Friday afternoon, June 26.

Police were called to the 2200 block of Devon Lane, near the intersection of South Averill Avenue and Lippincott Boulevard, at 12:56 p.m., where a male was shot three times.

He was taken to the hospital, where he was listed in critical condition.

As of about 2:30 p.m., police were searching for a suspect. No arrests were made.

No further information was released.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Flint Police Department at 810-237-6800.

To remain anonymous, contact Crime Stoppers by calling 1-800-SPEAK-UP (1-800-773-2587), submit a web tip at 1800speakup.org or text CRIMES (274637). All calls and cash rewards are anonymous.

tdimhcs


So now there are 2 cops on patrol in the entire city.

If you have not done so, go get a CPL or move!


Blue407


I thought those new bicycle patrols were supposed to stop this from happening. Maybe the three on three basketball tournament downtown will help. Chief Tolbert could not be reached in at his Southfield residence for comment on this recent shooting.
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untanglingwebs
El Supremo

Blue407


I thought those new bicycle patrols were supposed to stop this from happening. Maybe the three on three basketball tournament downtown will help. Chief Tolbert could not be reached in at his Southfield residence for comment on this recent shooting.






This shooting was in Evergreen Regency. The State Police are on bicycle patrol here.
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untanglingwebs
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tdimhcs


So now there are 2 cops on patrol in the entire city.

If you have not done so, go get a CPL or move!





Whenever there is a shooting or other violent crime, nearly all of the available police are tied up helping secure and protect the scene. With 98 police, there are few on patrol each night. According to the EM report to the Governor, the police were expected to be at only 85 officers with about 15 civilians by June 30, 2015. At a College Cultural meeting, Chief Tolbert stated he had 25 fewer officers than this same time last year.


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untanglingwebs
El Supremo

Friday evening there was a block club on Avenue B near M L King. A man was stabbed on the pathway between Avenue B and the M L King Market. Officers had to request a unit to assist with the party so they could transport the victim.
Post Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:48 pm 
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untanglingwebs
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http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/06/party_store_managers_employees.html#incart_river

Party store managers thrilled with new Flint ordinance to stop loitering


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A sticker will be placed on businesses that allow Flint Police to stop loiterers and trespassers without owner's action. Party stores can participate before Nov. 1 by signing an affidavit but starting in November it will become an ordinance throughout the city. (Courtesy photo)



Eric Dresden | edresden@mlive.com By Eric Dresden | edresden@mlive.com
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on June 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, updated June 26, 2015 at 7:10 AM


FLINT, MI – It's nearly daily that Mark Shango sees a loiterer or trespasser and is forced to try and kick them off of the property at Liquor Corner.

Shango, manager of the business located at 3009 Saginaw St., said Flint's newest ordinance will help all party store employees.

Thursday, June 25, the City of Flint announced a new ordinance that would grant authority to the Flint Police Department to take action against people who are trespassing or causing a nuisance without direct discussion or action from the property owner.

"That would help out a lot," Shango said. "We do the best we can, but there is only so much we can do. If we don't have help from police, we can't really do too much."

Police have asked businesses with high probability of loitering and trespassing to sign an affidavit granting police the ability to act on their behalf immediately, before the ordinance starts on Nov. 1.

Businesses that participate now will receive a sticker to put in the store.

Shango said he has no concerns about the ordinance at all, saying regular customers typically don't loiter and having police keep an eye on party stores is great.

"My regulars already know, whatever they do, that's on them," he said. "We're not here to cover up anything."

Lea Setto, an employee at Sal's Party Store, 3026 Fenton Road, said they received info from the city and have filled it out. She said there are many loiterers who typically stand in the parking lot asking for money.

"We don't let them stand by the door," she said, adding they see the problem regularly.

Tamara Breed, manager at Quick Pick Party Store, 1742 W. Court St., said they call police once or twice a week because of loitering problems.

"It runs off customers," she said. "It could be great for (police) to be able to pay attention to something like that."

The store continues to get new customers coming from downtown and Kettering University and she said loiters give off the wrong vibe for customers, so any effort to curb that is good.

"I think it's a wonderful idea," she said.
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untanglingwebs
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How will the police enforce this ordinance as there are not enough officers.
Post Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:21 pm 
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untanglingwebs
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Three were Shot about 11:30 pm Saturday night in the vicinity of Shenanigans bar on the corner of Western Rd and Richfield rd. One was able to make it to the bar where he was given first aid and all three were transported to the hospital. Two were wounded to the leg and one to the arm.
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untanglingwebs
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http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/06/state_police_troopers_cleared.html
Post Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:10 am 
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Yan Sela
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You should look at what the Budget Says for FY2015: PD from $21.9m to $12.6m and FD $11.7m to $6.1m (while HR goes up 32K). This is because of the court ruling that pension obligations must be paid to retired civil servants.

This create a tremendous risk to the community.
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untanglingwebs
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Thanks Yan

The Police expect to be reduced to 100 (may include the 15 civilian employees). It looks like the police were expected to be lower in umber than now by June 30, 2015. The fire department is also expecting big cuts.
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