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1pissedoffguy
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terrybankert schreef:
How can an unknown fringe candidate with no experience protect the interests of the Michigan 5th Congressional District? Just who are the libertarians? Should the libertarian get the same media attention as the Democratic incumbent and the Republican opponent? Dale Kildee is the best Congressman in Washington D.C.. His working closely with Pelosi will bring home the bacon for our district.
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2009/12/fenton_libertarian_announces_r.html
Flint Talk post
http://www.flinttalk.com/viewtopic.php?p=50385#50385
Aww , what's wrong Bankert, is someone challenging the iron clad grip that the Democrats have had on this area for the past 60 years? Are you upset? What kind of track record did Kildee have when he first got elected? Zilch, all he has was the Democratic party affilation behind him. Have you looked around this part of Michigan lately Bankert? It's a dying! Time for new blood . Kildee will have to retire someday, that or get carried out in a box because he croaked in office. He may had done some good things but damm dude, you libs always say how things gotta change , well getting rid of Kildee is just change. You Libs always say don't fear change, hell dude I smell the fear from you from here,
I think your attitude shows arrogance that I think has to be challenged. Many of us never derived any benefit from Kildee being in office , none whatseover. But I guess we don't count,right? Things change Bankert. God I bet you hate hearing someone else telling you that for a change,don't you? |
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:45 pm |
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twotap
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How can an unknown fringe candidate with no experience become president of the USA.
Wanna see change?? wait till 2010 pelosi get your pompous ass back to your seat and shutup.  |
_________________ half the Country isn't even paying taxes yet they can still receive a "refund" of my money that I did pay in. Who came up with that plan??
AZ SHERIFF: 'OUR OWN GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME OUR ENEMY' |
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:55 pm |
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Gooch
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I'll be honest and say I miss the old days. I grew up on Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, and Clinton. I was totaly happy going back and forth between parties. Stuff used to get done. They all four had their faults. But times were good. Now I feel it doesn't matter what party you belong to. There are dorks in all of them. What used to be a sence of "we're all in this together" has turned into "my crook is better then yours". "We got more dirt on your guy then you have on ours". Smear tactics and full pockets have ruined it all. Even if Obama could change things he can't cause there are too many people with "politics as usual" going on. Put a Republican in the hot seat and it still wont matter. Someone elses interests will be getting done rather then the peoples business. The President isn't in charge any more cause every other little pleb from both parties answers to a higher power then him. They hold the power and the President just takes the blame for it all.
Take healthcare as the example. What started out as a grand idea from years ago and from both parties is now a chicken with all it's feathers plucked off running around headless and it wont die for another 3 or 4 years. Big fricken whoop. Another chunk of the population will be dead by then. So what eh? Least we stoped elected officials from paying for abortions for there mistresses on our dime right? Maybe in 3 or 4 years we can see how many more people will be in the system due to being born of rape and incest and drug abuse right? Or you'll have more of your precious tax dollars to inject your ass into your lips to make em look more like the Octomom? More tax dollars to retire to Florida before it sinks into the Ocean, oh but wait that wont happen cause there isn't big frinken chucks of ice the size of states breaking off. New Orleans flooded cause of shody work right not global warming what ever the cause!! And it wasn't a white republican who let black people die (hmmm where have I seen this play out localy) lets blame it on the black Dem localy running things! They both F'ed up. It was common folk who saved lives.
Same with our local government. It's all friends of friends of people who got the cash to spend. And nothing seems to get done very fast. It's all tied up in a bunch of red tape and fat pockets. Why do we have so many people working for Flint that don't even live here. They just have a house here or moved in to get the office? The UAW is just another party that has F'ed up things. I'd trust the midnight manager of McDonalds to get things done faster just cause he knows how to serve up food in a minute or less to a bunch of drunks at closing time!!
I personaly would like to see alot more people with no conections or political history getting elected. That way it starts over clean. I'd like to see someone born from a tube grown in a box and taught every day of his life run things. Maybe we would get something done rather then bicker all day while our shit burns down around us screaming at each other about who was right!!!!!! It reminds me of the old Son of Kong movie. In the end Kong Jr is holding the guy way up in the air as the island is sinking. He doesn't save him but atleast he got a few more minutes to watch it all sink under the sea? |
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:59 pm |
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twotap
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Just a quick reminder Obama has "changed" things.
"Here is my principle: Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle."
--Franklin D. Roosevelt (instituting class warfare in America)
“We can’t expect the American people to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism.”
--Nikita Khrushchev on Roosevelt's "new deal"
“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”
--Norman Thomas (Socialist Party presidential candidate Norman Thomas, grandfather of Newsweek's Evan Thomas) |
_________________ half the Country isn't even paying taxes yet they can still receive a "refund" of my money that I did pay in. Who came up with that plan??
AZ SHERIFF: 'OUR OWN GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME OUR ENEMY' |
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Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:38 am |
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terrybankert
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Lee Gonzales would make an excellent Genesee County Treasurer.
http://049.housedems.com/ |
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Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:20 am |
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untanglingwebs
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| Deb Cherry is busy calling in her favors. She had to repair a rift between her and David Leyton-she refused to support him for Attorney General. Wonder what her position is nw? |
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Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:45 am |
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Ted Jankowski
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terrybankert schreef:
Lee Gonzales would make an excellent Genesee County Treasurer.
http://049.housedems.com/
How do you figure? Look what he did as a State Representative and then come back as make that recommendation. Can anyone say I voted to create Monopolies for AT&T and Comcast and call it competition? |
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Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:41 pm |
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terrybankert
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GOOD MORNING FLINT!
BY Terry Bankert
12/24/09
Mayor Walling is right, when he says, trees do not pay taxes.
Vacant abandoned homes do not pay taxes either.
Residents trapped between run down rental property, thanks to the Political Clout of the Genesee Landlords Association, and empty and sporadically maintained property thanks to the Land Bank are paying taxes at a rate higher than the fair market value of their property because of state law.
We are at a cross roads. Daniel Kildee as a public servant has assembled a significant block of property .
He has our thanks but now what is to happen to these properties.
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2009/12/al_jazeera_report_highlights_f.html
What is the plan of Dan Kildee the private person working off a grant from the Mott foundation and in concert with his friend at the Genesee Regional Chamber of Commerce ? What do they have in mind for our quality of life as driven by land use policy in part?
Now as Kildee abandons his post as country treasure and his statutory leadership of the land bank what is our communities vision?
What are our plans for the use of this land?
Why cannot the public directly and through our elected council and mayor discuss this at hearings?
Where is the public agenda ?
Where are these decisions really being made?
The only neighborhood agenda in Flint is being played out by the obscure policy actions of the Land Bank. Why?
What is ironic as the country treasure position is being vacated County Clerk Carr and County Treasure Kildee say the position should be left vacant.
At the very moment that public leadership is needed there are interests that want our voices to not be heard through our appointed/elected leadership.
Soon three county political figures will fill the County Treasures position abandoned by Kildee.
Who is lobbying these three politicians?
What is the criteria to be used in this selection?
What deals are being cut?
These are logical questions we should all be asking.
Needed is transparency in the process for selecting the next county treasurer.
I hope the interview process is open to the public and media.
Is it?
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Terry Bankert
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Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:21 am |
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untanglingwebs
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Very well spoken Terry. This will not be an appointment based on who would best perform the duties, but on political considerations.
Carr is supporting John Cherry for Governor so I assume that will influence his decision on John's sister, Debbie Cherry. Leyton still wants the Attorney General nomination from the Dems, but Cherry was supporting another candidate. Deb Cherry wanted to be Clerk but Carr did not retire. I don't know where Barkey is politically.
If these political elected positions are just figureheads who don't need any real ability, why do we need them?
Gonzales as a Deputy Treasurer helped establish the Land Bank. The Land Bank was never intended to be a major developer in the county. Gonzalez has the ability to restore it to a more beneficial unit of government. As a quasi-governmental entity now it has no accountability and has run amok as far as ethics go. |
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Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:27 am |
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twotap
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This will not be an appointment based on who would best perform the duties, but on
ONLY DEMOCRAT
political considerations.
There fixed it for ya. |
_________________ half the Country isn't even paying taxes yet they can still receive a "refund" of my money that I did pay in. Who came up with that plan??
AZ SHERIFF: 'OUR OWN GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME OUR ENEMY' |
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Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:37 am |
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Ted Jankowski
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quote:
untanglingwebs schreef:
Gonzales as a Deputy Treasurer helped establish the Land Bank. The Land Bank was never intended to be a major developer in the county. Gonzalez has the ability to restore it to a more beneficial unit of government. As a quasi-governmental entity now it has no accountability and has run amok as far as ethics go.
So you want someone who doesn't want to be held accountable for what he did as a State representative to be the county treasurer also? I'm confused?
Now if he was willing to admit his mistakes and then work to correct them I'd have a completely different opinion. But he continues to hold stead fast that Creating a monopoly for AT&T and COMCAST is a "Competition" He stands for free speech by not requiring new video services in Michigan to carry Public Access television as was required by Comcast. He voted to make Public access have to pay to get their shows aired. It's all in Black and white in the Law he voted for. |
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Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:19 pm |
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untanglingwebs
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I am not happy with every decision any politician has made and that includes Gonzales. However, I have argued with him on several issues and I am convinced he made what he honestly believed at the ime was the best informed decision he could make.
Your involvement in public television drives your decision to use that topic as a litmus test.
Twotap is probably right. The decision will be a Democrat and not necessarily the right person for the job. But I agree with Terry about the qualifications Gonzales brings to the table as far as the Treasurers office goes.
I am not naive enough to believe qualifications alone will win the appointment. Those doing th selection have their own political agendas and loyalties. John Cherry and his run for governor may influence some on the committee to favor Debbie Cherry. But then again they may want to select someone who won't use this temporary position to run as an incumbent. We all know some political wrangling will take place. |
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Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:25 pm |
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Ted Jankowski
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Twotap is probably right. The decision will be a Democrat and not necessarily the right person for the job. But I agree with Terry about the qualifications Gonzales brings to the table as far as the Treasurers office goes.
Oh I believe this statement whole hardheartedly. And yes my involvement with Public Access does make for some of my litmus test. But also I'm so excited I've been saved from Transfat in my oil when I go to a fast food place and buy food.
And I agree he probably felt he was informed enough to make that decision. However, Now that the Law has been enacted and it doesn't do anything that his argument says it would. (and maybe I just feel this way because if I had put my reputation on the line for a bill and it didn't do what I said it was going to. My integrity would eat me alive until I made it right) Instead he continues to stand behind his argument for it/ Even after none of the results he said it was going to do for the citizens of Michigan have never transpired and the opposite of what he said has happened.
Isn't that like selling someone a broken TV then after they purchased it continuing to claim that it works just fine and your not going to refund their money.
Oh and I read all the discussion on that bill. The people speaking out against it were right on the money with what they said it would do. The real problem was the amount of Money ATT put into his campaign. We don't have a payoff committee to buy votes in Public Access. |
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Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:41 pm |
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untanglingwebs
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| I take it you agree with everything Deb Cherry has done? |
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Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:54 pm |
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Adam
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quote:
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I am not happy with every decision any politician has made and that includes Gonzales. However, I have argued with him on several issues and I am convinced he made what he honestly believed at the ime was the best informed decision he could make.
I have to agree with you on this one. I think Lee Gonzalez is the biggest socialist I have ever met. I suppose technically socialism might be able to theoretically work here in the USSA but we have way too much corruption and not enough intelligence at the top. Even Lee needs to realize he is not as smart as he thinks and that central economic planning is not as good as leaving things to the private sector. |
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