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half the Country isn't even paying taxes yet they can still receive a "refund" of my money that I did pay in. Who came up with that plan??

AZ SHERIFF: 'OUR OWN GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME OUR ENEMY'
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AZ SHERIFF: 'OUR OWN GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME OUR ENEMY'
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OBAMA ALWAYS THE GENTLEMAN, WHILE CLINTONS LIGHT IS FADING.
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REFLECTIONS. Its time to seal the nomination. Every day Clinton looks less acceptable as vice president, much less as president. Brewer of the MDP should resign and Levins hand slapped. The public wanted an election where votes meant something. That has been violated by Mark Brewer. It cannot be corrected by backroom manipulation. We are beyond that in this new age. We want a President with dignity, character and integrity. We expect the political parties to act in the same manner.... and Savanaugh GA was a great trip, lots to said for Urban Planning.[trb]

MRS. CLINTON JUST DO THE RIGHT THING!

With the nomination in sight, Barack Obama is willing to give rival Hillary Rodham Clinton the lion's share of the delegates from Florida and Michigan but is stopping short of her demand to fully recognize the two renegade states.[AP] Compromise may be the order of the day but character and integrity will win the general election, the nation and world is watching.[trb]

SKELETONS FOR CLINTON

Mrs. Clinton was accompanied by a skeleton crew of aides and a diminished press corps Wednesday as she continued to tour some of the remotest parts of America. After a tourist stop at Mount Rushmore, she drove nearly three hours across the desolate Badlands to the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation and made her delectability argument to a somewhat bewildered crowd of about 250 people outside the Little Wound School. [n]Clinton’s proud bow beam of months ago is a fragile fading light heading to the far horizon.MANNED ONLY BY THE REMENANTS OF THE BLACK PEARL[trb]

What's important: 'Integrity'[DN]

But at least some rules committee members say potential general-election damage does not trouble them. [DN] In the mix are honorable democrats. Its about character said Gleason to Newman in the Hustler.[trb]

"I'm not particularly concerned about that," responds Mary Fuller Clark, a New Hampshire state senator on the committee, and one of her state's many defenders of its first-in-the-nation primary. "What's important for us is to maintain the integrity of the process." [DN]

Ultimately, however, the committee's adherence to rules may fall to political necessity. [DN] We will watch. This cross roads of leadership will raise some while others fail.[trb]


HOW EMBARRASSING FOR MICHIGAN, JUST WHO ARE THE MEMBERS OF THESE COMMITTEES

The Democratic National Committee is trying to work out a compromise to the long-running dispute over Michigan and Florida. In violation of party rules, the two states held primaries in January and were stripped of their delegates. The DNC's Rules and Bylaws panel meets Saturday.[AP] The voters want accountability and punishment TO THOSE WHO play backroom politics with their vote.We want the head of Brewer and his Florida counterpart for their acts of arrogant disobedience.[trb]

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's prospects of persuading Democratic officials to override party rules and recognize all delegates selected in the Florida and Michigan primaries suffered a setback yesterday after lawyers for the party ruled that no more than half of those delegations could be legally recognized. [w]Mrs Clinton respect the rules and accept defeat with dignity.[trb]


WHEN THE RULES ARE INTENTIONALLY VIOLATED THERE ARE SANCTIONS, ASK A KID!

You cannot violate the rules of the process and then expect to get forgiven for it," Dean said.[c] Howard Dean DNC Democratic National Committee


The DNC could decide to send half the delegates to the convention, uncertain is which half. Another option is to seat all the delegates with half a vote. Then the issue is how those votes should be split between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.[AP]

30 TROLLS EMERGE TO PLUNDER

Thirty Democratic Party officials -- mostly obscure party operatives -- will gather in a Washington hotel conference room this weekend to consider disputed convention delegates from Michigan and Florida, the most closely watched group of people yet to weigh in on the close Democratic presidential campaign. [DN] The voters do not understand the special ownership rights a party has in the nomination process. To them this is an American election. They are unhappy.[trb]

The little-known panel meets Saturday to determine, for now at least, the fates of the Michigan and Florida delegations -- and, by extension, the votes of nearly 600,000 Michiganians and 1.75 million Floridians who participated in Democratic primaries in January.[DN]

With Saturday's meeting the most significant date remaining on the nominating calendar, it will focus intense attention on a group with few, if any, household names. The 30-member Rules & Bylaws Committee is a mix of attorneys, political operatives, elected officials and union chiefs. [DN]


The DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee is scheduled to meet Saturday to make a final determination on Florida and Michigan, which would have collectively awarded 368 convention delegates. But in the memo, party lawyers determined that full restoration, as sought by Clinton, would violate DNC rules, although it did note a loophole that would allow her to carry the challenge to the first day of the Democratic National Convention in late August. [w]

The Democratic Party is likely to meet rule-breaking Florida and Michigan halfway when it comes to seating their delegates at the national convention, two members of the rules committee said Wednesday.[c]

WE ARE DISTRACTED WITH THIS MESS, JUST WHEN OBAMA SHOULD BE ON OUR SHOULDERS MARCHING TO VICTORY. JUST WHOSE FAULT IS THIS.

Whatever decision is made during a party meeting Saturday delays a resolution of the Democratic contest, just as Obama is within reach of the 2,026 delegates needed to win the nomination.[AP]

WHY ARE THERE NOW DIFFERENT RULES, WHAT BACKROOM EVIL IS A WORK?

"Our magic number could increase kind of at the 11th hour here," Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Wednesday. He told reporters: "If it's raised a little bit based on the Rules Committee, we'll have to go get some more superdelegates. But at some point we're the nominee."[AP]


Plouffe said the campaign is not stockpiling superdelegates to roll out en masse, as many political observers have speculated. "We announce superdelegates as they commit to us," he said. But he said mid-next week would be "a natural time" for those who have not picked sides to finally break. [w]

Obama is already acting like a general-election candidate. He spent the past three days in New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado -- three states that held Democratic caucuses months ago but that are expected to be swing states in November. [w]

CLINTON THE PISSED OFF SOCCER MOM WANTS IT HER WAY, RULES OR NO RULES. Its all about her, not us![trb]

Clinton has been pushing for the Democratic National Committee to seat all 368 delegates from Florida and Michigan. She won both contests — after all the candidates agreed not to campaign in either state and Obama wasn't on the Michigan ballot.[AP]

Speaking to reporters on a morning conference call, senior adviser Harold Ickes refused to rule out a legal challenge if the committee does not rule in Clinton's favor. "That's a bridge to cross when we come to that particular stream," he said. [w]


THE VOTERS OF MICHIGAN SHOULD BE ANGRY AT THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERS THAT CAUSED THE DNC RULE VIOLATION. WHO COULD THAT BE?

Clinton strategist Harold Ickes is one of the 30 members of the committee, and he said he'll be encouraging them to base their decisions on the January primaries. "We are urging 100 percent of the delegations be seated and that each delegate have a full vote," Ickes said.[AP]

RULES COMMITTEE IS NOT CONCERNED WITH RULES JUST POWER, WHAT A MESSAGE TO OUR KIDS

That's an unlikely outcome as even Clinton aides have privately acknowledged they lack the votes on the committee to restore all the delegates. Thirteen of the members are publicly committed to Clinton, eight have endorsed Obama and nine are undeclared.[AP]

ITS NOT FAIR TO SEAT THEM AT ALL

"We don't think it's fair to seat them fully because we both lived by these rules and pledged to abide by them," Plouffe said. "We're willing to give some delegates here, which I don't think should be sneezed at."[AP]

As a result, Mrs. Clinton would appear to need all the more superdelegates to swing her way if she has any remaining hope for the nomination.[w]

To that end, she stepped up her appeal Wednesday to superdelegates, the Democratic officeholders and party officials who could ultimately decide the nomination. In a letter, she argued that she would be a stronger nominee than Mr. Obama against Senator John McCain in the fall.[w]

THE WORLD IS WATCHING, JUST WHAT IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ALL ABOUT?

"Regardless of what side people are on, Obama or Clinton, they have a larger perspective, and that's the integrity of the Democratic Party," said Mame Reiley, a Virginia political consultant and Clinton supporter who is on the panel. "And I think we're going to approach it that way." [DN]

Committee members interviewed by The Associated Press have expressed little interest in the option of seating all the delegates. And the DNC staff wrote in an analysis sent to members this week that the rules call for the two states to lose at least half their delegates at a minimum for voting too early.[AP]

CLINTON PLANS TO CAUSE A RIOT/PROTEST AT THE RULES MEETING

David Plouffe, Mr. Obama’s campaign manager, said the Obama camp had advised against rallies, despite calls on the Internet for counterprotests. Mr. Plouffe said the campaign did not want to contribute to a chaotic scene, which, he said, would not serve the interests of party unity.[n] Clinton is staging a rear guard action, for what purpose. Its time to hear the ____ lady sing,[trb]

OBAMA PLEAS FOR DIGNITY

The Obama campaign was dismissive of efforts by the Clinton campaign to have supporters demonstrate outside the rules meeting.[c]
Clinton supporters, including a group including at least several dozen Michiganders, plan to rally in a park near the hotel.[f]


"We're not going to turn this thing into a circus," former Democratic Party Chairman David Wilhelm said[c]


THERE IS NO EASY WAY OUT, AND IF ATTEMPTED THE PARTY WILL LOSE THE RESPECT OF THE WORLD

The analysis said there are two options to include half the delegations — either allow half the number of delegates from each state into the convention or allow the full delegations to attend, but give them each half a vote. The analysis cautions that there are no easy ways to distribute the delegates, especially in Michigan where Clinton won 55 percent of the vote and 40 percent went to "uncommitted."[AP]

A VOTE OF 500,000 MICHIGAN DEMOCRATS LOST TO THE TAMMANY LIKE BICKERING OF THE BACK ROOM!

If the Florida and Michigan delegations get half their votes back, the number needed to secure the nomination would grow to 2,118. There are myriad ways the committee could then divide the delegates between the two candidates.[AP]

THE VOTERS KNOW THEIR SACRED VOTE IS BEING PLAYED LIKE A CHIT IN TEXAS HOLDUM

If, for example, the "uncommitted" vote in Michigan was awarded to Obama but the half-delegates were otherwise awarded according to the primaries, Obama would need an additional 26 delegates to clinch the nomination.[AP]

WHEN EVER THE ELITES MAKE A PROCESS OBSCURE THE LITTLE GUY IS GETTING SCREWED

If the pledged delegates are divided evenly between the two candidates, Obama would need an additional nine delegates to clinch. The number still increases because of uncommitted superdelegates from the two states.[AP]

OBAMA PLAYED BY THE RULES CLINTON IS NOT. IT’S A MEASURE OF CHARACTER.

Plouffe said seating the full delegations according to the January votes is not fair or acceptable to the campaign, especially since he wouldn't get any delegates out of Michigan. Democrats in the two states are not asking for that resolution either.[AP]

Judge Richard Lazzara sided with the DNC, saying political parties have the right to make their own rules.[c]

LIKE BUGS UNDER A ROCK THESE COMMITTEE MEMBERS NEED THE LIGHT OF DAY TO DO THE RIGHT THING

Florida Democratic officials said they were open to getting half their vote — but they would like the full delegation to be seated. Allan Katz, who serves on the Rules and Bylaws Committee, said he thinks the committee is leaning toward giving Florida half its delegates, but some members have told him they don't believe Florida shouldn't get any delegates.[AP]

500,000 MICHIGAN VOTERS SEE THEIR VOTES SQUANDERED BY THE MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY GENERALLY AND IT'S CHAIRPERSON MARK BREWER SPECIFICALLY. JUSTICE IS DEMANDED

"It's just very difficult to categorize. You have a lot of people who look at this differently," said Katz, who supports Obama and can't vote on the Florida measure because he's from the state.[AP]

HAPPY DAYS

Jon Ausman, a DNC member who raised the challenge that's before the committee Saturday, said he'd be happy if the committee gave them half votes.[AP]

WEASELS AT WORK

"It's just a question of whether we can get them all eventually," Ausman said. "It's not like Florida hasn't felt the punishment. The bottom line is we certainly have taken it on the chin."[AP]

BREWER GOT MICHIGAN INTO THIS MESS ! WHY? TO DELIVER MICHIGAN TO CLINTON BY THE BACK DOOR AND HE GOT CAUGHT BY THE RISE OF OBAMA. NOW HE HAS A SOLUTION?

Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer, who is on the Rules and Bylaws Committee, said he won't support a plan that would give half delegates for Florida. He's presenting a plan that would split Michigan's pledged delegates 69 for Clinton and 59 for Obama, although he can't vote on it.[AP]

DEAR MARK, RESIGNATION IS A VIABLE OPTION TO RESTORE THE TRUST OF 500,000 CITIZENS IN THE MDP!

He said he didn't know what the rules committee might do and will just make his best case possible.[AP]

BREWER SHOULD STEP ASIDE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER INSTEAD OF WHINING LIKE A CHILD

"You can come up with all of legalistic reasons not to do our proposal ... (but) we've been punished enough," he said. "We haven't had candidate visits for nearly a year, up until recently. Continuing to punish us could cause us to lose Michigan in the fall." [AP]
–end–

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[AP]
AP
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5igrYLRrHG3P6lIbs2E7pSH0bxhvgD90V2B000
[TRB]
Comments of Terry Bankert to include CAP headlines
http://attorneybankert.com/

[w]
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/28/AR2008052803093.html?hpid=topnews

[n]
The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/us/politics/29dems.html?ref=us
[c]
CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/28/dnc.memo/?iref=mpstoryview
[f]
Detroit Free Press
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080529/NEWS07/805290327/1009
[dn]
The Detroit news
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080529/POLITICS01/805290341/1022/POLITICS

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RUSH TO JUDGEMENT HARMS CHILDREN
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REFLECTIONS: The State actors we rely on to protect children can harm them. To read more from the perspective of parents caught up in child protective proceeding see:[trb]
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/child_neglect_abuse/


400 LITTLE LIVES SHATTERED!

The Texas Supreme Court ruled Thursday that more than 400 children taken from a polygamist sect's ranch nearly two months ago should be returned to their parents, saying child welfare officials overstepped their authority.[d]

The decision was issued in response to an appeal by the state Child Protective Services (CPS) of the April ruling of Austin's Third Court of Appeals against state custody of the children from a Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS) ranch. The appellate court had ruled that evidence was inadequate to prove that the children were in danger of sexual abuse. [A]

When a Texas court ruled last week that state child welfare authorities were wrong to seize more than 440 children from a polygamist sect, it certainly wasn't the first case in which welfare officials were accused of overstepping their bounds. Sadly, it probably also won't be the last, either.[t]

THIS CASE IS ABOUT RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION AND THE HYPOCRISY IN AMERICAN GOVERNMENT

Just hours before the ruling, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a friend-of-the-court brief siding with the FLDS mothers, expressing concern that Texas was targeting a religious culture. A Dallas child-abuse lawyer filed her own brief supporting Texas.[des]

The results of DNA testing to determine family relationships are also expected back today or next week, the Texas Attorney General's Office said. A criminal investigation remains under way, with Tom Green County prosecutors saying they are considering a number of options — including a bigamy prosecution. Jessop called it a "war on religion."[DES]

CPS WORKERS WITH TOO MUCH POWER, TO LITTLE ACCOUNTABILITY MAKE BAD CALL

The court affirmed an appeals court decision last week that said Child Protective Services failed to show an immediate danger to the children living on the Yearning For Zion Ranch.[d]

A MICHIGAN EXAMPLE OF CPS ABUSE ON A FAMILY..DO NOT THINK THIS CANNOT HAPPEN TO YOU!

The Texas case brought to mind an incident in April in which a man temporarily lost custody of his son for buying him a lemonade at a baseball game.[T]

Maybe you've heard this one. If not, the incident involved a University of Michigan professor of archaeology who was watching a Detroit Tigers game with his 7-year-old son when the boy asked for something to drink.[T]
The professor, Christopher Ratte, went to a concession stand and asked for a lemonade. He received a product known as Mike's Hard Lemonade, which contains alcohol.[T]

Ratte said he didn't know he'd purchased what amounted to a mixed drink, and there's been no evidence to suggest he was lying. Seems he spends more time reading books and visiting archaeological sites overseas than watching TV commercials touting alcoholic beverages.[T]

But after Ratte gave the drink to his son, a security guard saw the boy drinking it and called the police.[T]

This is where the story gets particularly disturbing. Because even though a police officer who interviewed Ratte thought the professor made an honest mistake, the welfare system kicked into gear and common sense went out the window.[T]

Following protocol, the officer's supervisor insisted that the case be turned over to Child Protective Services. The welfare authorities who were assigned to the case took custody of the boy even though they apparently agreed with the police officer that Ratte didn't do anything intentionally wrong.[T]

Again, it was a matter of protocol. But it led to a series of events that included the boy being taken away from his parents for a day and a half, then being allowed to go back home only on condition that Ratte stay somewhere else. Finally, after about three days, the family was reunited.[T]

Granted, Ratte made a mistake. But was his error so terrible that he had to face the awful possibility of losing his child over it? Seems like few people in the system thought so, but the system itself wasn't able to draw a distinction between an accident and an intentional case of harming a minor.[T]

THE JUDGE WAS WRONG, HOW DID THAT HAPPEN.....

The Texas Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that it was an abuse of judicial discretion to take hundreds of children in what has become the nation's largest-ever child custody case.[des]

A CALVARY OF LAWYERS TO THE RESCUE...GO BROTHERS AND SISTERS, GOOD JOB!

Lawyers for dozens of FLDS mothers challenged the court's decision. The 3rd Court of Appeals sided with the mothers, saying that the state failed to show the children were in immediate danger and ordered them to be returned to their mothers immediately. Texas child welfare officials appealed, saying the children were in danger of abuse in a culture that groomed little girls to become child brides and boys would grow up to become sexual perpetrators.[DES]

CHILDREN TO BE RETURNED, WHAT HARM TO THE CHILDREN HAS BEEN CAUSED BY THE STATE

The ruling directs a lower-court judge to reverse her decision putting the children into foster case. The appeals court ordered the children returned to the parents, but it's not clear when that will happen.[d]

"End this nightmare and end this torture that they're putting these families through," he said Thursday. "These children have suffered enough at the hands of the state of Texas. It is time for the children to come home."[DES]

"There has been a catastrophic, physical and emotional trauma to these families, permanent damage that will be left on them for a lifetime. Two wrongs do not make a right and this court has an ability to load these children up and return them to the families and I can assure you we can figure out who mothers and fathers are," said the FLDS member.[W]

"One of the clear messages from the court is that CPS has got to stop treating these people as a crowd," he said. "The clear message from the court is it's time for these kids to go home now."[DES]

A polygamist sect elder says parents are excited about a state Supreme Court decision today but will remain apprehensive until they get their children back.[K]

ONE PROBLEM IN CHILD PROTECTIVE PROCEEDINGS (cps)IS THAT CHILDREN ARE TAKEN TOO QUICKLY

In its ruling, the high court said that state law gave the lower court broad authority to protect children "short of separating them from their parents and placing them in foster care," including removing the alleged perpetrators from the home and preventing the removal of a child from the jurisdiction of the investigating agency[DES]

CPS is a bureaucracy filled with over worked undertrained poorly supervised good people who on occasions such as this do harm to children. What can be learned here? We should look at the protocols in all states are we taking children too quickly from the home? Yes is my answer. Does our system of child helper on occasion become child harmerS? Yes. Has American given too much unchecked power to the agents of a state government who some times are private contract worker? Yes is my answer.[trb]
–END

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—WHERE DID THIS STUFF COME FROM--
[DES]
Deseret News
http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700230321,00.html

[d]
Detroit Free Press
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080530/NEWS07/805300363

[T]
Topeka Capitol Journal
http://cjonline.com/stories/052908/opi_284029009.shtml

[W]
WBKO
http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/19375474.html

[K]
WKDBC
http://www.kdbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=8397866&nav=menu608_5_16

[TRB]
Comments of Terry Bankert to include CAP headlines
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[A]
AHN
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011107709

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KNOW THE LAW TOPIC

Issues: Child support; Post-judgment order denying the plaintiff-mother's request to increase child support; Whether the trial court should have imputed income to the defendant-father; MCL 552.605(2); Ghidotti v. Barber; Reed v. Reed; Whether the trial court erred in its earnings calculations; Stallworth v. Stallworth

Court: Michigan Court of Appeals (Unpublished)
Case Name: McDowell v. McDowell
Kalamazoo Circuit Court 02-007446-DM
e-Journal Number: 39454
Judge(s): Per Curiam - O'Connell, Hoekstra, and Smolenski

The court affirmed the trial court's post-judgment order denying the plaintiff-mother's request to increase child support.

The Court agreed with the trial court she did not establish the defendant-father was hiding large amounts of income and holding the trial court did not err in declining to impute greater income to defendant.

The court noted "there was no evidence presented regarding four of the seven elements courts look to in determining whether to impute income"

- defendant's educational level,

-whether he had any mental or physical disabilities,

- the presence of children in his home and its impact on the parties' earnings,

-and the availability of employment in his area.

The evidence showed defendant's prior employment experience was as a floor installer and a trucker. His social security statement showed taxable social security earnings from 1985 through 2003 and indicated the highest annual incomes he earned were $20,582 in 1998 and $28,812 in 1999.

While plaintiff contended defendant earned $75,000 in the first 18 weeks of 2004 and admitted it at a referee hearing, the record did not support this claim.

Plaintiff also asserted amended 1099s showed he and his new wife pocketed about $90,000 "under the table" and all of those funds should be imputed to defendant.

Amended 1099s were issued to defendant and his new wife for 2004, which increased non-employee compensation to them by about $90,000.
However, plaintiff provided no cite to the record to support defendant hid or lied about the $90,000 and the court found no support for this in the record.

Defendant and his new wife filed amended 2004 tax returns taking into account the amended 1099s. Their joint amended return stated an adjusted gross income of $36,780, taxable income of $14,690, and a net profit of $13,074 to defendant from the business. The court concluded the $40,000 and $30,000 incomes imputed to defendant were in line with the figures he reported for the original FOC custody and parenting time evaluation, reflecting what he had earned as a floor installer since 1999. Affirmed.

CHILD SUPPORT GENERALY FROM THE MICHIGAN CHILD SUPPORT GUIDELINES

In determining the contributions to support that divorced parents must make, the trial court must generally follow the formula developed by the Friend of the Court Bureau. MCL
552.605(2); Berger v Berger, 277 Mich App 700, 724; ___ NW2d ___ (2008).

A COURT MAY ENTER AN ORDER OUTSIDE THE GUIDELINES

A court may deviate from the support formula only if application of the formula would be unjust or inappropriate. MCL 552.605(2); Ghidotti v Barber, 459 Mich 189, 196; 568 NW2d 883 (1998).

IF YOU VOLUNTARILY REDUCE YOUR INCOME YOUR CHILD SUPPORT COULD BE SET BASED ON YOUR HIGHER INCOME

When assessing a parent’s ability to pay support, the trial court is not limited to consideration of a parent’s actual income, Reed v Reed, 265 Mich App 131, 163; 693 NW2d 825 (2005), rather, it
may consider the parent’s voluntarily unexercised ability to earn. Ghidotti, supra at 198.

FACTORS THE COURT USES TO DETERMINE IMPUTED INCOME

When evaluating whether there is an unexercised ability to earn, the following factors must be considered:
1) Prior employment experience;
2) education level;
3) physical and mental disabilities;
4) the presence of children of the marriage in the party’s home and its
impact on the earnings of the parties;
5) availability of employment in the local
geographical area;
6) the prevailing wage rates in the local geographical area; 7)
special skills and training; or
Cool whether there is any evidence that the party in
question is able to earn the imputed income.
[Ghidotti v Barber, 459 Mich 189, 199; 586 NW2d 883 (1998), quoting Michigan Child Support Formula Manual, Tenth Rev, p 8.]
SEE THE COMPLETE CASE AT
http://www.michbar.org/opinions/appeals/2008/052208/39454.pdf
[The case above was prepared for media presentation, with changes. Only rely on the full case linked above after consulting counsel.]
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"Lipstick on a pig!"[ap]
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Audience becomes an unruly mob[m]

THE START

It started with hundreds of demonstrators chanting outside, until torrential rains drove them away. Inside were the 28 rules committee members, who sat under the lights at a U-shaped conference table[n]

THE END

Front-runner Barack Obama turned to wrapping up the Democratic presidential nomination after a party committee dealt rival Hillary Clinton a blow by seating the disputed Michigan and Florida convention delegations at half-strength. [y]

THE REAL BATTLE BEING PLAYED OUT NATIONALLY WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THE CONTEST BETWEEN PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS AND THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN SOCIAL LIBERALISM OR LIBERALS

Social liberals, also referred to as progressives or modern liberals, constitute a large part, about 45.6 percent, of the Democratic voter base. Liberals thereby form the largest united typological demographic within the Democratic base. [wp2]Since the 1890s, the Democratic Party has favored "liberal" positions (the term "liberal" in this sense describes social liberalism, not classical liberalism). [wp2]The Democratic base currently consists of a large number of well-educated and relatively affluent liberals as well as those in the socially more conservative working class[wp2]

Historically, the party has favored farmers, laborers, labor unions, and religious and ethnic minorities; it has opposed unregulated business and finance, and favored progressive income taxes. In foreign policy, internationalism (including interventionism) was a dominant theme from 1913 to the mid 1960s. In the 1930s, the party began advocating welfare spending programs targeted at the poor. [wp2]

In recent decades, the party has adopted a centrist economic and more socially progressive agenda, with the voter base having shifted considerably. Once dominated by unionized labor and the working class, the Democratic base now consists of social liberals who tend to be well-educated with above-average incomes as well as the socially more conservative working class. [wp2]


The Progressives are the economic elite in the democratic party. They have sold out, run for cover and generally showed themselves to be a weak spined lot during the Bush neo conservative ear. What we are seeing today is a battle for the hearts and minds of the democratic party. Do we want more of the minority block the democratic elite PROGRESSIVES controlling the Democratic Party the very people directly responsible for allowing, through ineffective opposition to Bush, the demise the American Middle class. Or do we return to our majority base the LIBERALS and social liberalism which brought you the middle class. IT’S A NEW DAY![trb]

THE RECENT SKIRMISH, THE PROGRESSIVE CLINTONITES LOSE.....

The hotel where the 30 Democratic rule-makers met today -- to decide whether rules are rules or whether rules are made to be broken -- was within howling distance of the National Zoo.[l]

Outside the stately Marriott Wardman Park Hotel were clusters of women with "Hear Me Roar" placards in their fists who came in from all over the country -- $4 a gallon be damned -- to make what could be a last stand for their Hillary.[l]

The deep wounds among Democratic partisans — and the unification challenges that lie ahead — were laid bare when the committee rendered its judgment around 7 p.m. Supporters of Mrs. Clinton jeered the decision.[n]

OUR REAL LEADER

Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, opened the meeting by urging party activists who filled the hotel ballroom to think beyond the immediate concerns of their chosen candidates and begin working for the benefit of the party in the general election.[n]

THE GOOD

Former Michigan congressman David Bonior, who argued on behalf of Obama at the meeting, said the result was "fair" and predicted "we’re very close to the end" of the long primary campaign. He would not say whether he expected Clinton’s campaign to carry the potentially damaging delegate fight to Denver.[N]

THE BAD

"Behind all the rhetoric during the meeting about democracy and on and on and on, I am stunned that we have the gall and the chutzpah to substitute our judgment for 600,000" Michigan voters, Ickes said. "I submit that hijacking [Clinton delegates] is not a good way to start down the path of party unity." [N]

THE UGLY

Mark Brewer,....(HIRED GUN OF THE PROGRESSIVES.....[TRB])..., chairman of Michigan’s Democratic Party, told the panel the best solution was a compromise, based on an assessment of exit polling and other data. Brewer said Obama was entitled to 59 pledged delegates to Clinton’s 69, "a far fairer reflection of the Democratic preferences in Michigan.’’ That became the formula for the solution.[N]

MICHIGAN A STATE FULL OF HALFLINGS AND HOBBITS

Democratic Party leaders agreed Saturday seat Michigan and Florida delegates with half votes into this summer's convention with a compromise that left Barack Obama on the verge of the nomination but riled Hillary Rodham Clinton backers who threatened to fight to the August convention.[ap] ....hinting at a bare-knuckles fight the party had sought to avoid.[BC]

THE RISE OF LIBERALISM...ON TO THE NEXT BATTLE....

The chaos and vitriol seemed to confirm Democrats' fears that they might blow an election that should otherwise be an easy victory for them. Nor did the party's compromise fit well with the Democrats' oft-voiced commitment to voting rights. They decided they would give Florida and Michigan half of their voting rights - one of the more arbitrary compromises since the 1787 decision that a slave should count as three-fifths of a person - and voted to award Obama 59 Michigan delegates even though his name wasn't even on the ballot in the state.[m]

D.B.COOPER STRIKES AGAIN

"Hijacking four delegates is not a good way to start down the path of party unity," said adviser Harold Ickes.[ap]

I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW!!!!

Clinton's...(PROGRESSIVE CAMP...[TRB]) ...maintains she was entitled to four additional Michigan delegates.[ap]

A civil war, that's how it felt. Democrat against Democrat. Not long ago, they were united in the cause to wrest the White House from the Bush legacy, end the war, stop global warming, empower the middle class.[l]

OBAMA IS A CLASS ACT, THE CLINTON PROGRESSIVES, CLASSLESS....

The Obama campaign applauded the party’s Rules and Bylaws Committee’s handling of the emotion-charged disputes in an often-raucous televised meeting in a Washington hotel. But the committee’s decision on the Michigan primary, which Clinton won in January by a wide margin after other contenders took their names off the ballot, left Clinton’s supporters fuming and threatening to take the fight to the party’s nominating convention in Denver in August.[b]

WE WILL PICK UP OUR MARBLES AND LEAVE

And now, many of them were so mad they said they planned to defect from their party for the first time ever -- if Hillary Rodham Clinton were not the nominee.[l] Please do, while we still have a middle class Do not let the door hit you in the butt.[trb]

THE PARTY WILL UNIFY, THESE MORONS CAN NOT STOP THAT, JUST SPIN THATS ALL THEY HAVE LEFT...

The decision by the party's Rules Committee raised slightly the total delegates Obama needs to clinch the nomination. Clinton advisers conceded privately he will likely hit the magic number after the final primaries are held Tuesday night, but said the ruling threatened to dash any hopes of a unified party.[ap]

MRS. CLINTON (I.E). BUBBAS WIFE, IS STICKING A SHARP STICK IN OUR EYE

"Mrs. Clinton has told me to reserve her right to take this to the Credentials Committee" at the convention, said Ickes, who is a member of the Rules Committee that voted Saturday.[ap]

Mrs. Clinton was in touch with Mr. Ickes throughout the day, aides said, and she instructed him to conclude his remarks with that message to the party. It remained an open question, though, how much leverage Mrs. Clinton would have after the primaries concluded on Tuesday.[n]

OUR GUY WILL WIN, ITS TIME TO AIM OUR CANNONS AT MCCAIN....

The resolution increased the number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination to 2,118, leaving Obama just 66 delegates away from the majority needed to secure the nomination.[ap]

FINALLY SOMEONE IS MAKING SENSE

"Our main goal is to get this resolved so we can focus on winning Michigan and Florida," Obama said while campaigning in South Dakota. "There were compromises. ... I'm glad the DNC worked it through and I hope we can start focusing on substance as opposed to process."[ap]

MRS. BUBBA THREATNED A RIOT/PROTEST SHE GAVE US RAUCOUS

So, these women climbed in buses and in their cars and came to fight. Clinton's campaign didn't organize it but didn't dissuade them; Barack Obama's camp discouraged its supporters from demonstrating, mindful not to offend Hillaryites they hope will come their way by the time Nov. 4 rolls around.[l]

The disputed Michigan and Florida primaries became a focal point of anger for the Clinton supporters, and busloads of them arrived in Washington to protest — many of them Clinton campaign volunteers. Holding placards and shouting slogans like, "Count every vote!" they demanded that the Democratic National Committee honor all the primary votes and pledged delegates from Florida and Michigan.[N]

The deal was reached after committee members deliberated for nine hours, including three where they met privately and argued fiercely over their eventual deal, according to several people inside. They voted in front of a raucous hotel ballroom that frequently interrupted proceedings and reflected deep divisions within the party.[ap]

MARK BREWER (MDP) &MRS. BUBBA DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULES, ½ VOTE IS THE DNC POLICY TO SANCTION UNRULY CHILDREN

"How can you call yourselves Democrats if you don't count the vote?" one of the many hecklers in the audience yelled loudly and repeatedly before being escorted out by security. "This is not the Democratic Party!"[ap]

SPIN, SPIN AND MORE SPIN, THE VOTER ARE GETTING DIZZY...

A senior Clinton adviser, speaking on a condition of anonymity about internal campaign decisions, said the decision could be used to help her raise campaign donations for a scaled-down campaign that might focus on a signature issue — such as health care reform — rather than a traditional fight for the nomination.[ap]

MR. AND MRS BUBBA DESERVE NOTHING AFTER THIS IS OVER, ITS BEYOND BELIEF THEY HAVE THE GALL TO TAKE THIS LOSING FIGHT THIS FAR

The advisers said no decisions had been made, and it was still possible that Clinton would bow out once Obama goes over the top.[ap]

SHE WON NOTHING, IT WAS BUSH LIKE/LEAGUE TO HAVE EVEN BEEN ON THE MICHGIAN BALLOT WHEN THE DNC SAID STAY OUT

Clinton and her supporters wanted the Michigan and Florida delegations fully restored, according to January primaries that she won. But those contests were not recognized by the party because they were held too early, and both candidates agreed at the time they would not count.[ap]

THEIR RAGE IS WHAT MUST BE RECOGNIZED. PUNISH THOSE AT FAULT FOR THE MICHIGAN MESS, MARK BREWER IS A GOOD START

But as Clinton tried to catch up to Obama's delegate lead, she has argued that the votes of the 2.3 million people who participated in the elections must be recognized.[ap]

Obama supporters argued that they did compromise by allowing her to take the majority of delegates in two contests where he didn't campaign.[ap]

The sticking point was Michigan, where Obama's name was not on the ballot.[AP]

Clinton's camp insisted Obama shouldn't get any pledged delegates in Michigan since he chose not to put his name on the ballot, and she should get 73 pledged delegates with 55 uncommitted. Obama's team insisted the only fair solution was to split the pledged delegates in half between the two campaigns, with 64 each.[ap]

SHE DESERVES..... NOT ....THE 10 VOTE ADVANTAGE, HE FOLLOWED THE RULES SHE DID NOT

The committee agreed on a compromise offered by the Michigan Democratic Party that would split the difference, allowing Clinton to take 69 delegates and Obama 59. Each delegate would get half a vote at the convention, according to the deal.[ap]

The deal passed 19-8. Thirteen members of the committee had endorsed Clinton for president, so she wasn't even able to keep her supporters together.[ap]

Allan Katz, a Rules Committee member and Obama supporter, said the Obama campaign had enough votes on the committee to support the campaign's proposal to split the delegates 50-50 in Michigan. Ultimately, the campaign agreed instead to support the compromise negotiated by the Michigan Democratic Party as a way to resolve the matter.[ap]

OBAMA IS HIGH MINDED MRS CLINTON IS LOW ACTING

"The ironic thing is Obama had the majority of that committee," Katz said. "The Obama campaign wants to move on and compromise. We did not muscle our way through it. It was a wise decision from a well run and wise campaign that will reverberate."[ap]

CLINTON WAGS WILL SINK THIS SHIP BEFORE IT ARRIVES AT OBAMA BAY

But the irate reaction from Clinton's campaign and her supporters in the sharply divided audience shows Obama will have a long way to go to bring the party together after a long and divisive primary.[ap]

Clinton had made the disputes over Florida and Michigan a rallying cry for her campaign. Officials told the panel Democrats could pay a price in November against McCain if the delegations from the two election battlegrounds were not seated and the results counted. [y]

CLINTON BACKERS: WE WON’T ROLL OVER[wt] Then you should be knocked out.[trb]

Earlier in the day, hundreds of demonstrators, mostly Clinton supporters, jammed sidewalks outside the hotel, holding homemade signs reading "Count our Florida votes" and "50 states -- not 48." [y]

"The Democratic Party has disdained the female demographic, they have demeaned Hillary Clinton, and this time we're not going to roll over," Ms. Garrard said. [wt]

MISOGYNISTIC

"I refuse to be associated with a party that is stupid, self-destructive and undemocratic, and now, I'm beginning to realize, is misogynistic," said Norma Broude, an American University professor who was among more than 1,000 Clinton supporters at a "count the vote" rally at Rock Creek [wt]
Misogyny is hatred (or contempt) of women.[WP]

CHILDREN BEHAVE

"We just blew the election!" a woman in the audience shouted. The crowd was divided between cheering Obama supporters and booing Clinton supporters.[ap]

OLD YELLER WAS YELPING

"This isn't unity! Count all the votes!" another audience member yelled.[ap]
Jim Roosevelt, co-chair of the committee, tried repeatedly to gavel it to order. "You are dishonoring your candidate when you disrupt the speakers," he chided.[ap]

HOW MUCH MORE OF THIS FIASCO IS LEFT...

There are three primaries left in the contest — Puerto Rico on Sunday and Montana and South Dakota on Tuesday. Obama should get at least 30 delegates in the remaining primaries, meaning he has to pick up no more than about 30 more superdelegates even if he loses Puerto Rico and South Dakota.[ap]

He will not clinch the nomination this weekend, barring a barrage of superdelegates Sunday.[ap]

The committee also unanimously agreed to seat the Florida delegation based on the outcome of the January primary, with 105 pledged delegates for Clinton and 67 for Obama, but with each delegate getting half a vote as a penalty.[ap]

SHOUT IT OUT

Proponents of full seating continuously interrupted the committee members as they explained their support of the compromise, then supporters of the deal shouted back.[ap]

"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.[ap]

"You shut up!" the second woman shouted back.[AP]
Obama picked up a total of 32 delegates in Michigan, including superdelegates who have already committed, and 36 in Florida. Clinton picked up 38 in Michigan, including superdelegates, and 56.5 in Florida.[ap]

OBAMA HAS AN INSURMOUNTABLE LEAD...WHY ARE WE ARGUING

Obama's total increased to 2,052, and Clinton had 1,877.5.[ap]
A proposal favored by Clinton that would have fully seated the Florida delegation fully in accordance with the January primary went down with 12 votes in support and 15 against.[ap]

THEN WHY DID THEY TRY

Tina Flournoy, who led Clinton's efforts to seat both states' delegations with full voting power, said she was disappointed by the outcome but knew the Clinton position had "no chance" of passing the committee.[ap]

"I understand the rules. ... I can tell you one thing that has driven these rules was being a party of inclusion," Flournoy said. "I wish my colleagues will vote differently."[ap]

A BACON MAKE OVER

Alice Huffman, a Clinton supporter on the committee, explained that the compromise giving delegates half votes was the next best thing to full seating.[ap]

"We will leave here more united than we came," she said.[ap]

Some audience members heckled her in response. "Lipstick on a pig!" one shouted. [ap]


“McCain in 08! McCain in 08!” a woman yelled from the back of the room. “No-bama! No-bama!”[n]

But Obama supporters said that the Clinton camp was upset because it showed the nomination contest was essentially over. “There is no more big concentration of delegates from anywhere left,” said Allan Katz, a Florida lawyer and member of the rules committee who supports Mr. Obama.“This was their last big chance to move the goal posts and it failed,” he said.[n]

“This is not about Barack Obama. This is not about Hillary Clinton. This is about our country,” Mr. Dean said. “This is about restoring America to its greatness, to restoring our moral authority and to healing America at home. That’s what this is about.”[n]

Obama will hold a victory celebration after the South Dakota and Montana polls close on Tuesday night at the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, Minnesota -- the site of the Republican convention in September.[y]
–END

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400 LITTLE LIVES SHATTERED!

The Texas Supreme Court ruled Thursday that more than 400 children taken from a polygamist sect's ranch nearly two months ago should be returned to their parents, saying child welfare officials overstepped their authority.[d]

The decision was issued in response to an appeal by the state Child Protective Services (CPS) of the April ruling of Austin's Third Court of Appeals against state custody of the children from a Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS) ranch. The appellate court had ruled that evidence was inadequate to prove that the children were in danger of sexual abuse. [A]
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As bad as this is it could have been worse if the Clintons and Janet Reno were running the show. Shocked

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THE PARTY WILL UNIFY, THESE MORONS CAN NOT STOP THAT, JUST SPIN THATS ALL THEY HAVE LEFT...

The decision by the party's Rules Committee raised slightly the total delegates Obama needs to clinch the nomination. Clinton advisers conceded privately he will likely hit the magic number after the final primaries are held Tuesday night, but said the ruling threatened to dash any hopes of a unified party.[ap]

MRS. CLINTON (I.E). BUBBAS WIFE, IS STICKING A SHARP STICK IN OUR EYE

"Mrs. Clinton has told me to reserve her right to take this to the Credentials Committee" at the convention, said Ickes, who is a member of the Rules Committee that voted Saturday.[ap]

Mrs. Clinton was in touch with Mr. Ickes throughout the day, aides said, and she instructed him to conclude his remarks with that message to the party. It remained an open question, though, how much leverage Mrs. Clinton would have after the primaries concluded on Tuesday.[n]

OUR GUY WILL WIN, ITS TIME TO AIM OUR CANNONS AT MCCAIN....

The resolution increased the number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination to 2,118, leaving Obama just 66 delegates away from the majority needed to secure the nomination.[ap]

FINALLY SOMEONE IS MAKING SENSE

"Our main goal is to get this resolved so we can focus on winning Michigan and Florida," Obama said while campaigning in South Dakota. "There were compromises. ... I'm glad the DNC worked it through and I hope we can start focusing on substance as opposed to process."[ap]

MRS. BUBBA THREATNED A RIOT/PROTEST SHE GAVE US RAUCOUS

So, these women climbed in buses and in their cars and came to fight. Clinton's campaign didn't organize it but didn't dissuade them; Barack Obama's camp discouraged its supporters from demonstrating, mindful not to offend Hillaryites they hope will come their way by the time Nov. 4 rolls around.[l]

The disputed Michigan and Florida primaries became a focal point of anger for the Clinton supporters, and busloads of them arrived in Washington to protest — many of them Clinton campaign volunteers. Holding placards and shouting slogans like, "Count every vote!" they demanded that the Democratic National Committee honor all the primary votes and pledged delegates from Florida and Michigan.[N]

The deal was reached after committee members deliberated for nine hours, including three where they met privately and argued fiercely over their eventual deal, according to several people inside. They voted in front of a raucous hotel ballroom that frequently interrupted proceedings and reflected deep divisions within the party.[ap]

MARK BREWER (MDP) &MRS. BUBBA DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULES, ½ VOTE IS THE DNC POLICY TO SANCTION UNRULY CHILDREN

"How can you call yourselves Democrats if you don't count the vote?" one of the many hecklers in the audience yelled loudly and repeatedly before being escorted out by security. "This is not the Democratic Party!"[ap]

SPIN, SPIN AND MORE SPIN, THE VOTER ARE GETTING DIZZY...

A senior Clinton adviser, speaking on a condition of anonymity about internal campaign decisions, said the decision could be used to help her raise campaign donations for a scaled-down campaign that might focus on a signature issue — such as health care reform — rather than a traditional fight for the nomination.[ap]

MR. AND MRS BUBBA DESERVE NOTHING AFTER THIS IS OVER, ITS BEYOND BELIEF THEY HAVE THE GALL TO TAKE THIS LOSING FIGHT THIS FAR

The advisers said no decisions had been made, and it was still possible that Clinton would bow out once Obama goes over the top.[ap]

SHE WON NOTHING, IT WAS BUSH LIKE/LEAGUE TO HAVE EVEN BEEN ON THE MICHGIAN BALLOT WHEN THE DNC SAID STAY OUT

Clinton and her supporters wanted the Michigan and Florida delegations fully restored, according to January primaries that she won. But those contests were not recognized by the party because they were held too early, and both candidates agreed at the time they would not count.[ap]

THEIR RAGE IS WHAT MUST BE RECOGNIZED. PUNISH THOSE AT FAULT FOR THE MICHIGAN MESS, MARK BREWER IS A GOOD START

But as Clinton tried to catch up to Obama's delegate lead, she has argued that the votes of the 2.3 million people who participated in the elections must be recognized.[ap]

Obama supporters argued that they did compromise by allowing her to take the majority of delegates in two contests where he didn't campaign.[ap]

The sticking point was Michigan, where Obama's name was not on the ballot.[AP]

Clinton's camp insisted Obama shouldn't get any pledged delegates in Michigan since he chose not to put his name on the ballot, and she should get 73 pledged delegates with 55 uncommitted. Obama's team insisted the only fair solution was to split the pledged delegates in half between the two campaigns, with 64 each.[ap]

SHE DESERVES..... NOT ....THE 10 VOTE ADVANTAGE, HE FOLLOWED THE RULES SHE DID NOT

The committee agreed on a compromise offered by the Michigan Democratic Party that would split the difference, allowing Clinton to take 69 delegates and Obama 59. Each delegate would get half a vote at the convention, according to the deal.[ap]

The deal passed 19-8. Thirteen members of the committee had endorsed Clinton for president, so she wasn't even able to keep her supporters together.[ap]

Allan Katz, a Rules Committee member and Obama supporter, said the Obama campaign had enough votes on the committee to support the campaign's proposal to split the delegates 50-50 in Michigan. Ultimately, the campaign agreed instead to support the compromise negotiated by the Michigan Democratic Party as a way to resolve the matter.[ap]

OBAMA IS HIGH MINDED MRS CLINTON IS LOW ACTING

"The ironic thing is Obama had the majority of that committee," Katz said. "The Obama campaign wants to move on and compromise. We did not muscle our way through it. It was a wise decision from a well run and wise campaign that will reverberate."[ap]

CLINTON WAGS WILL SINK THIS SHIP BEFORE IT ARRIVES AT OBAMA BAY

But the irate reaction from Clinton's campaign and her supporters in the sharply divided audience shows Obama will have a long way to go to bring the party together after a long and divisive primary.[ap]

Clinton had made the disputes over Florida and Michigan a rallying cry for her campaign. Officials told the panel Democrats could pay a price in November against McCain if the delegations from the two election battlegrounds were not seated and the results counted. [y]

CLINTON BACKERS: WE WON’T ROLL OVER[wt] Then you should be knocked out.[trb]

Earlier in the day, hundreds of demonstrators, mostly Clinton supporters, jammed sidewalks outside the hotel, holding homemade signs reading "Count our Florida votes" and "50 states -- not 48." [y]

"The Democratic Party has disdained the female demographic, they have demeaned Hillary Clinton, and this time we're not going to roll over," Ms. Garrard said. [wt]

MISOGYNISTIC

"I refuse to be associated with a party that is stupid, self-destructive and undemocratic, and now, I'm beginning to realize, is misogynistic," said Norma Broude, an American University professor who was among more than 1,000 Clinton supporters at a "count the vote" rally at Rock Creek [wt]
Misogyny is hatred (or contempt) of women.[WP]

CHILDREN BEHAVE

"We just blew the election!" a woman in the audience shouted. The crowd was divided between cheering Obama supporters and booing Clinton supporters.[ap]

OLD YELLER WAS YELPING

"This isn't unity! Count all the votes!" another audience member yelled.[ap]
Jim Roosevelt, co-chair of the committee, tried repeatedly to gavel it to order. "You are dishonoring your candidate when you disrupt the speakers," he chided.[ap]

HOW MUCH MORE OF THIS FIASCO IS LEFT...

There are three primaries left in the contest — Puerto Rico on Sunday and Montana and South Dakota on Tuesday. Obama should get at least 30 delegates in the remaining primaries, meaning he has to pick up no more than about 30 more superdelegates even if he loses Puerto Rico and South Dakota.[ap]

He will not clinch the nomination this weekend, barring a barrage of superdelegates Sunday.[ap]

The committee also unanimously agreed to seat the Florida delegation based on the outcome of the January primary, with 105 pledged delegates for Clinton and 67 for Obama, but with each delegate getting half a vote as a penalty.[ap]

SHOUT IT OUT

Proponents of full seating continuously interrupted the committee members as they explained their support of the compromise, then supporters of the deal shouted back.[ap]

"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.[ap]

"You shut up!" the second woman shouted back.[AP]
Obama picked up a total of 32 delegates in Michigan, including superdelegates who have already committed, and 36 in Florida. Clinton picked up 38 in Michigan, including superdelegates, and 56.5 in Florida.[ap]

OBAMA HAS AN INSURMOUNTABLE LEAD...WHY ARE WE ARGUING

Obama's total increased to 2,052, and Clinton had 1,877.5.[ap]
A proposal favored by Clinton that would have fully seated the Florida delegation fully in accordance with the January primary went down with 12 votes in support and 15 against.[ap]

THEN WHY DID THEY TRY

Tina Flournoy, who led Clinton's efforts to seat both states' delegations with full voting power, said she was disappointed by the outcome but knew the Clinton position had "no chance" of passing the committee.[ap]

"I understand the rules. ... I can tell you one thing that has driven these rules was being a party of inclusion," Flournoy said. "I wish my colleagues will vote differently."[ap]

A BACON MAKE OVER

Alice Huffman, a Clinton supporter on the committee, explained that the compromise giving delegates half votes was the next best thing to full seating.[ap]

"We will leave here more united than we came," she said.[ap]

Some audience members heckled her in response. "Lipstick on a pig!" one shouted. [ap]


“McCain in 08! McCain in 08!” a woman yelled from the back of the room. “No-bama! No-bama!”[n]

But Obama supporters said that the Clinton camp was upset because it showed the nomination contest was essentially over. “There is no more big concentration of delegates from anywhere left,” said Allan Katz, a Florida lawyer and member of the rules committee who supports Mr. Obama.“This was their last big chance to move the goal posts and it failed,” he said.[n]

“This is not about Barack Obama. This is not about Hillary Clinton. This is about our country,” Mr. Dean said. “This is about restoring America to its greatness, to restoring our moral authority and to healing America at home. That’s what this is about.”[n]

Obama will hold a victory celebration after the South Dakota and Montana polls close on Tuesday night at the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, Minnesota -- the site of the Republican convention in September.[y]
–END


I'm sure Clinton will be ready to help "enfranchise" Michigan and Florida if it can keep the nomination out of Obama's reach. Obama better win on the first vote or he could lose the nomintion.
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Hillary and Obama may have a deal set up.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/democrats/2058907/US-Elections-Hillary-Clinton-to-be-offered-dignified-exit.html

Hillary Clinton will be offered a dignified exit from the presidential race and the prospect of a place in Barack Obama's cabinet under plans for a "negotiated surrender" of her White House ambitions being drawn up by Senator Obama's aides.
The former First Lady would get the chance to pilot Mr Obama’s reforms of the American healthcare system if she agrees to clear the path to his nomination as Democratic presidential candidate.

Senior figures in the Obama camp have told Democrat colleagues that the offer to Mrs Clinton of a cabinet post as health secretary or to steer new legislation through the Senate will be a central element of their peace overtures to the New York senator.
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Hillary and another health care fiasco ya gotta be kidding. Laughing

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---- copy of MDP Press Release---
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 31, 2008
Contact: Liz Kerr
Phone: 517-371-5410 x. 248
Cell: 858-775-7986
Michigan* Will Count, Delegates *
Split 69 Clinton, 59 Obama
*Delegates Restored at half voting power, Credentials Committee Expected to
Seat Full Delegation*
WASHINGTON-Michigan Democrats' efforts to challenge the Democratic
nomination process were successful, and a Michigan delegation will be seated
at the National Convention in Denver. Today, the Rules & Bylaws Committee
(RBC) of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) has officially approved the
Michigan proposal that recognizes the January 15th primary but takes into
account that Sen. Barack Obama's name was not on the ballot.

"We are very pleased that the Rules & Bylaws Committee accepted our
compromise proposal to resolve the dispute over the allocation of the
Michigan delegates and that the Committee restored half of our delegates
today," said Mark Brewer, Chair of the Michigan Democratic Party (MDP). "We are confident that the remaining half of the delegation will be restored by
the Credentials Committee, if not before."
At today's meeting, Michigan was awarded all of its delegates with half
voting power. The pledged delegates will be awarded 69 for Sen. Hillary
Clinton and 59 for Sen. Barack Obama. The automatic, unpledged delegates
will also have half voting power. The MDP expects to reach full voting power
through the Credentials Committee of the Democratic National Convention.
"Today's decision is a fair resolution that recognizes both the importance
of Michigan's vote for a Democratic president and the primary that took
place in January," Brewer said. "We can now move full steam ahead in our
efforts to ensure a Democratic president that puts Michigan jobs and working
families ahead of the big oil and corporate special interests of Bush,
McCain, and the Republican Party."

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*****"We are very pleased that the Rules & Bylaws Committee accepted our
compromise proposal to resolve the dispute over the allocation of the
Michigan delegates and that the Committee restored half of our delegates
today," said Mark Brewer, Chair of the Michigan Democratic Party (MDP). "We are confident that the remaining half of the delegation will be restored by*****

Gee, honorable Mr. Brewer, we would have had NO problems, had you decided to play by the rules.

By sheer narcissism alone, you have managed to cut my vote in half. Oh, I get warm fuzzies just thinking about his. Don't think that this won't be remembered. After this debacle, I wonder how many Democrats will actually remain Democrats because you blew it. Oy.
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REFLECTIONS; Its now the time for all good Democrats to come to the aid of their Party. What a moment in history, a black man beats a woman to become the Democratic Party nominee...we are a great diverse county. There is plenty of room at the Democratic party table, join us. Politics is a contact sport in the USA and this internet blogging,.. just another form of political activism.
We seeded from the chat rooms and boards with a slamming/ attacking style that many of us are trying to gravitat away from. Please all Democrats, Corporate and little “d” if from my little corner if you have taken offense at my small words accept this as a blanket apology. As for the Republicans...stay tuned there is more to come. To the Great Democrats that lead this country , Grandholm, Levin, Stabenow, Dale and Dan Kildee, Pelosi, Conyers, Barrack Obama and most of all to Hillary Rodham Clinton count me in as a private in your army. Within the context of party unity and the doctrine of “My enemies enemy is my friend”, it is my pleasure to introduce my new best friend Mr. Mark Brewer chairperson on the Michigan Democratic Party. It's your move Mr. Brewer.[trb]

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, AN AMERICAN HERO

Hillary Rodhamn Clinton gave it the good fight, we are proud of her effort and style and now grace.[trb]

Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton heaved toward the finish line in their exhaustive Democratic presidential odyssey with Obama poised to claim victory and Clinton facing the prospects of having to abandon a quest that once seemed a sure shot but became one of long odds.[a]

A FIGHTER UNTIL THE BELL RINGS!

A running theme of Clinton's campaign for president in recent weeks has been her vow to keep fighting for the Democratic nomination even as the odds grew longer. On Monday, that theme dominated her travels once again -- this time on the eve of the South Dakota and Montana primaries that will close a five-month marathon of Democratic contests.[l]

HILLARY CLINTON IS PART OF OUR POLITICAL FUTURE

"Hillary Clinton, bless her heart," added Leona McElvene of Warren, Mich., an Obama supporter who snapped photos of him from the stands. "They have to work out something where they can cooperate so we can make the country work better."[l]

WHO IS HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton observed, "Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us are doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . For me, that balance is family, work, and service."[w]

Hillary Diane Rodham, Dorothy and Hugh Rodham's first child, was born on October 26, 1947. Two brothers, Hugh and Tony, soon followed. Hillary's childhood in Park Ridge, Illinois, was happy and disciplined. She loved sports and her church, and was a member of the National Honor Society, and a student leader. Her parents encouraged her to study hard and to pursue any career that interested her.[w]

As an undergraduate at Wellesley College, Hillary mixed academic excellence with school government. Speaking at graduation, she said, "The challenge now is to practice politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible."[w]

In 1969, Hillary entered Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of Yale Law Review and Social Action, interned with children's advocate Marian Wright Edelman, and met Bill Clinton. The President often recalls how they met in the library when she strode up to him and said, "If you're going to keep staring at me, I might as well introduce myself." The two were soon inseparable--partners in moot court, political campaigns, and matters of the heart.[w]

After graduation, Hillary advised the Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge and joined the impeachment inquiry staff advising the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives. After completing those responsibilities, she "followed her heart to Arkansas," where Bill had begun his political career.[w]

They married in 1975. She joined the faculty of the University of Arkansas Law School in 1975 and the Rose Law Firm in 1976. In 1978, President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the board of the Legal Services Corporation, and Bill Clinton became governor of Arkansas. Their daughter, Chelsea, was born in 1980.[w]

Hillary served as Arkansas's First Lady for 12 years, balancing family, law, and public service. She chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, Legal Services, and the Children's Defense Fund.[w]

As the nation's First Lady, Hillary continued to balance public service with private life. Her active role began in 1993 when the President asked her to chair the Task Force on National Health Care Reform. She continued to be a leading advocate for expanding health insurance coverage, ensuring children are properly immunized, and raising public awareness of health issues. She wrote a weekly newspaper column entitled "Talking It Over," which focused on her experiences as First Lady and her observations of women, children, and families she has met around the world. Her 1996 book It Takes a Village and Other Lessons Children Teach Us was a best seller, and she received a Grammy Award for her recording of it.[w]

As First Lady, her public involvement with many activities sometimes led to controversy. Undeterred by critics, Hillary won many admirers for her staunch support for women around the world and her commitment to children's issues.[w]

She was elected United States Senator from New York on November 7, 2000. She is the First Lady elected to the United States Senate and the first woman elected statewide in New York.[w]

ALL THAT’S LEFT IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF VICTORY AND CONGRATULATIONS

Contest between Clinton and Obama goes on -- for now[l]

And although Tuesday's primary-season ending contests in South Dakota and Montana won't decide the Democratic nomination, the closing of the polls could open the floodgates to dozens of superdelegates — members of Congress and other party leaders — long anxious to throw their support to Obama.[a]

That could decide the nomination in a matter of days.[a]

DEMOCRATIC UNITY WILL AMAZE THE WORLD

"Once the last votes are cast, then it's in everybody's interest to resolve this quickly so we can pivot. We're less than three months away from our convention. So we've got a lot of work to do in terms of bringing the party together," the Illinois senator said in an interview with The Associated Press on Monday as he campaigned in Michigan, a general-election battleground.[a]

OBAMA CONTINUES TO BE A CLASS ACT...

On the precipice of winning the Democratic nomination, Barack Obama today shared a phone conversation he had with rival Hillary Clinton about uniting the party. [b2]

"I emphasized to her what an extraordinary race that she's run and said that there aren't too many people who understand exactly how hard she's been working," he told reporters in Waterford, Mich., relating their talk Sunday when he congratulated her on her victory in Puerto Rico. [b2]

"I'm one of 'em because she and I have been on this same journey together, and I told her that once the dust settled I was looking forward to meeting with her at a time and place of her choosing. The sooner we can bring the party together, the sooner we can focus on John McCain and taking back the White House."[b2]

THE SUPER DELEGATES NEED TO FALL IN LINE...

Obama said there were a lot of superdelegates who have been private supporters of his but wanted to respect the process by not endorsing until the final primaries were done.[a]

And while both candidates forged ahead on Monday in full-bore campaigning, neither Obama nor Clinton planned to be in either primary state on election night.[a]

THE GUNS TURN TO THE REPUBLICANS, AND MCCAIN
In a defiant shot across the GOP bow, Obama, who returned to hometown Chicago late Monday, planned to hold his wrap-up rally in St. Paul, Minn., at the arena that will be the site of the Republican National Convention in September.[a]

SHE GIVES DIGNITY, RESPECT AND MEANING TO THE TERM “LADY”

Clinton returned to New York, the state she represents in the Senate, planning an end-of-primary evening rally in Manhattan after a grueling campaign finale as she pushed through South Dakota on Monday.[a]
The former first lady has given no hint of quitting the race, and she has said repeatedly she may continue her candidacy even beyond the end of the primaries.[a]

"I'm just very grateful we kept this campaign going until South Dakota would have the last word," she said at a restaurant in Rapid City in one of her final campaign stops. Polls suggested Obama would win both South Dakota and Montana.[a]

She still sounded buoyant. Her biggest booster and most tireless campaigner, husband Bill Clinton, didn't. "This may be the last day I'm ever involved in a campaign of this kind," the former president said somberly as he stumped for her in South Dakota.[a]

RECONCILIATION PREDICTED WITHIN THE WEEK.

Ahead of Tuesday's concluding primaries, Obama sought to set the stage for reconciliation, praising Clinton's endurance and determination and offering to meet with her — on her terms — "once the dust settles" from their race.[a]

"The sooner we can bring the party together, the sooner we can start focusing on John McCain in November," Obama told reporters in Michigan. He said he spoke with Clinton on Sunday when he called to congratulate her on winning the Puerto Rico primary, most likely her last hurrah.[a]

DREAM TICKET..OBAMA/CLINTON...!!!!

That fueled speculation for a "dream ticket" in which Clinton would become Obama's running mate — but neither camp was suggesting that was much of a possibility.[a]

In the AP interview, Obama was asked when he would start looking for a running mate.[a]

"The day after I have gotten that last delegate needed to officially claim the nomination, I'll start thinking about vice presidential nominees. I think it's likely to come this week," he said. "It's a very important decision, and it's one where I'm going to have to take some time."[a]

Robert Gibbs, a top Obama aide, said late Monday the seemingly endless Democratic contest could be resolved "in the next 24 to 48 hours."[a]

"You're going to have a lot of superdelegates come out," he said.[a]

Clinton left South Dakota for New York late Monday, the final leg of a whirlwind four days that took her from New York to Puerto Rico, to South Dakota and back. For a campaign pushing against long odds, it was a show of determination.[a]

MOST DO NOT REALIZE THE SACRIFICE A CANDIDATE HAS TO MAKE

The former first lady, suffering from a recurrent cough, had to cede the microphone to her daughter twice during the day as she struggled to recover her voice. Chelsea promptly took the opportunity — to discuss health care.[a]

Meanwhile, Obama's aides prodded uncommitted lawmakers and other superdelegates to climb aboard quickly — as Clinton struggled to hold back the fast-rising tide.[a]

Democratic officials said that if Obama failed to gain the needed 2,118 delegates by Tuesday night, one possibility under discussion was for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Speaker Nancy Pelosi to issue a statement on Wednesday urging superdelegates to state their preferences as soon as possible. [a]

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, OUTSTANDING

Barack Obama praised rival Hillary Clinton as “an outstanding public servant” and said he hopes to meet with her sometime after the final Tuesday vote.[r]“I told her that once the dust has settled, I was looking forward to meeting with her at a time and place of her choosing,” he(OBAMA) said.[R]

MICHIGAN LEADERS STAYED LOYAL TO CLINTON AND UNIFIED THE PARTY

In the end, the Michigan Democratic Party, and a leading Clinton ally in the state, Governor Jennifer Granholm, as well as Senator Carl Levin, who is uncommitted, all agreed to the controversial 69-59 split of Michigan delegates, Roosevelt said, even as the Clinton presidential campaign continued to dispute the attempt at compromise. Clinton partisans attending the meeting at the Washington hotel booed and heckled frequently during the public, televised morning and evening sessions.[B]

THE USA WILL UNITE BEHIND OBAMA WITH THE NEEDED HELP OF HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON!

I wonder how all the “Hillary or McCain, but never Obama” folks will justify their position when Hillary endorses - and actively campaigns for - the Democrat nominee? How will they reconcile their determination against the video of Hillary giving one of the most powerful speeches of the election season (as she is certainly capable of doing) in support of Barack Obama at the convention in prime time in August, with shots of her holding his hand high amid the confetti and balloons? Don’t think it will happen? Just wait and watch, my friends….[ R), POST BY ajboop]

DEMOCRATIC UNITY BY WEDNESDAY, ALL GUNS TO BE AIMED AT MCCAIN.

If Obama indeed clinches the nomination after the Montana and South Dakota primaries Tuesday, that meeting could conceivably come as soon as Wednesday in Washington, where both are scheduled to address the American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference.[b2]
--end

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