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CAN COLLEGE STUDENT MOTHER GET CUSTODY WHEN DADDY'S MOMMY RAISED THE CHILD....YES SAYS THE UPPERS...!
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YES, TO THE ABOVE- Dude you got to do you own parenting. This child did not volunteer to be born.[trb]
Issues: Divorce; Custody; Whether the child had an established custodial environment; MacIntyre v. MacIntyre; Jack v. Jack; Foskett v. Foskett; LaFleche v. Ybarra; Whether the court erred in its finding on best interest factor (e); Fletcher v. Fletcher; Ireland v. Smith
Court: Michigan Court of Appeals
Case Name: Liu v. Liang
e-Journal Number: 38899
Judge(s): Per Curiam - Meter, Sawyer, and Wilder
UNPUBLISHED
March 25, 2008
v No. 280301
Sanilac Circuit Court
Family Division
LC No. 06-031374-DM
Defendant-Appellee.
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A BATTLE OVER CUSTODIAL ENVIRONMENT-MOM GETS KIDS!
PATERNAL GRANDMOTHER HAD BEEN THE CARE GIVER! DAD SHOULD GET CREDIT FOR THAT?
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS CHILD?
THIS BABY WAS MOVED AROUND TOO MUCH WITH TOO MUCH DRAMA
DAD SAYS HIS MOTHER WAS "THE ONE"
COURT SAYS NO PROOF OF THAT
COURT SAYS NO CUSTODIAL ENVIRONMENT, THE COURT WILL PLACE.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN NO CUSTODIAL ENVIRONMENT?
THE COURT MUST USE THE BEST INTEREST FACTORS
To do so, the trial court properly considered the 12 factors listed in MCL 722.23.
DAD KEPT MOM AWAY
MOM MORE LOVING AND STABLE FOR THE CHILD
The Friend of the Court (FOC) held hearings on the custody issue and recommended that
plaintiff be granted primary physical custody of the child. Defendant filed objections, and the
trial court held a de novo hearing. The trial court found that there was no established custodial
environment with either parent and that the child’s best interests would be served by awarding
physical custody to defendant.
On appeal, plaintiff first argues that the trial court erred by finding that the child did not
have an established custodial environment. According to plaintiff, the court ignored the fact that
plaintiff’s mother had been the child’s primary care giver for the most of the child’s life.
PROCESS FOR REVIEWING LOWER COURT DECISION
WHEN YOU LEAVE PLACEMENT TO THE COURT IT FIRST ASKS IS THERE A CUSTODIAL ENVIRONMENT
IF THERE IS A CUSTODIAL ENVIRONMENT THE COURT CANNOT CHANGE IT WILLY NILLY
If there is an established custodial environment, the court cannot change that
environment absent clear and convincing evidence that the change is in the child’s best interests.
MCL 722.27(1) ( C )
IF THERE IS A CUSTODIAL ENVIRONMENT THE COURT WEIGHT, MEASURES THEN DECIDES.
If there is no established custodial environment, the court may enter a
custody order if the preponderance of the evidence shows that the requested custody is in the
child’s best interests. Foskett v Foskett, 247 Mich App 1, 6-7; 634 NW2d 363 (2001).
SO JUST WHAT IS THE CUSTODIAL ENVIRONMENT?
To determine whether an established custodial environment exists, the court must
examine statutorily defined factors. The applicable statute states that:
a custodial environment is established if over an appreciable time the child naturally looks to the custodian in that environment for guidance, discipline, the necessities of life, and parental comfort.
Lots of wiggle room here.[trb]
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THIS CHILD
2 YEARS OF AGE, MOVED AROUND A LOT...
Here, the child was just past two years of age at the time of the temporary custody order and had lived intermittently with different groups of adults including the parties, plaintiff’s mother, and plaintiff’s sister, in different locations.
THIS KID WAS ON ITS OWN, NO GUIDANCE! AT 2 YEARS OF AGE!
The record does not establish that in the varying circumstances in which the child was placed, she looked to any particular adult for guidance, discipline, life necessities, or parental comfort.
DAD, MY MOMMY TOOK CARE OF THE BABY!
WELL, DADDYA SURE DID NOT PROVE THIS BIG TALK!
THE FAMILY COURT NO...YOU FAILED TO PROVIDE ANY CUSTODIAL ENVIRONMENT FOR THIS BABY
THE COURT WILL NOW DECIDE CUSTODY.
IN MICHIGAN WE DO NOT WANT ELITE JUDGES DECIDING OUR CHILDRENS CUSTODY ON THEIR ELITE, PAMPERED, RICH BACKGROUNDS.
THE LEGISLATURE ADOPTED THIS ACT (BEST INTEREST STANDARDS) TO STANDARDIZE AND MAKE FAIRER FOR THE COMMON FAMILY THESE DECISIONS.
DAD TATTLES TO THE COURT OF APPEALS THIS COURT BELOW YOU DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS DOING
THE COURT OF APPEALS SAYS, YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING US THE LOCAL COURT DID IT RIGHT.
That defendant is currently a university student does not negate the trial court’s nconclusion that she will provide a more permanent family unit than plaintiff.
Our Supreme Court acknowledged in Ireland v Smith, 451 Mich 457, 465; 547 NW2d 686 (1996), that a student can provide a permanent family unit for a child, even if the other parent is living in a family unit with the child’s grandparents.
Plaintiff has identified no viable grounds for disturbing the trial court’s custody
determination.
Affirmed.
/s/ Patrick M. Meter
/s/ David H. Sawyer
/s/ Kurtis T. Wilder
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The bulk of the material above is from an e-journal which circulated this recent court of appeals case. I have change the form I have added the cap headlines and inserted my comments as [trb] Do not rely on this article unless you review the original. This is prepared for a blog and discussion on a radio program. -Terry Bankert 4/5/08
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TAOISEARCH RESIGNS
RESIGNATION OF TAOISEARCH
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IRELAND POLITICS
Opinion poll shows a five-point increase in support for Fianna Fáil since the Taoiseach announced he is to resign.[r]
The Taoiseach (pronounced /0'ti+?•?c?x/ in English[1] and IPA: [tI??i+?•??c?x] (plural Taoisigh ([tI??i+?•??w?j] or [tI??i+?•??w?j?]) in Irish), also referred to as An Taoiseach ([c?n tI??i+?•??c?x]),[2] is the head of government or prime minister of Ireland.
The Taoiseach is appointed by the President upon the nomination of Dáil Éireann (the lower house of Oireachtas), and must, while they remain in office, retain the support of a majority in the Dáil. [W]
The words Taoiseach and Tánaiste (the title of the deputy prime minister) are both from the Irish language and of ancient origin. Though the Taoiseach is described in the Constitution of Ireland as "the head of the Government or Prime Minister",[7] its literal translation is "leader" or "chief". Some historians suggest that in ancient Ireland (where these terms originate), a taoiseach was a minor king, while a tánaiste was a governor placed in a kingdom whose king had been deposed or, more usually, his heir-apparent. In Scottish Gaelic, tbiseach translates as clan chief and both words originally had similar meaning in the Gaelic languages of Scotland and Ireland. The related Welsh language word tywysog (current meaning "prince" - from "tywys", to lead) appears to have had a similar meaning.[W]
The modern position of Taoiseach was established by the 1937 Constitution of Ireland, to replace the position of President of the Executive Council of the 1922–1937 Irish Free State. The positions of Taoiseach and President of the Executive Council differed in certain fundamental respects. Under the Constitution of the Irish Free State the latter was vested with considerably less power and was largely just the cabinet's presiding officer. For example, the President of the Executive Council could not dismiss a fellow minister. The Free State's cabinet, the Executive Council had to be disbanded and reformed entirely, in order to remove one of its number. The President of the Executive Council could also not personally seek a dissolution of Dáil Éireann from the head of state, that power belonging collectively to the Executive Council. In contrast, the Taoiseach created in 1937 possesses a much more powerful role. He can both instruct the President to dismiss ministers, and request a parliamentary dissolution on his own initiative.[8][W]
Historically, where there have been multi-party or coalition Governments, the Taoiseach has come from the leader of the largest party in the coalition. One exception to this was John A. Costello, who was not leader of his party, but an agreed choice to head the government, because the other parties refused to accept then Fine Gael leader Richard Mulcahy as Taoiseach.[W]
NEW LEADER PICKED BEFORE RESIGNATION
He respected the conclusions to which Mr Ahern had come. Mr Cowen also said he expected to be selected unopposed by the party's 77 TDs on Wednesday and become leader-designate until May 7th, when he will also assume the role of Taoiseach. He said everybody was in uncharted territory because this was the first time a leader-designate would be selected in advance of the Taoiseach stepping down. However once the leadership process ended on Wednesday, he would continue in his current office until May 7th.[IT]
MR AHERN
The Red C poll in today's Sunday Business Post also shows that just 22% of voters think Mr Ahern should not have announced his resignation.[r]
TRIBUNAL LOOKING AT CORRUPTION
Mr Ahern announced last Wednesday he was stepping down, amid on-going inquiries about his finances at a tribunal into planning corruption. [BBC]
BERTIE AHERN dramatically announced on Wednesday that he is to resign as Taoiseach and Fianna Fáil leader on 6 May. The announcement follows damaging publicity about Ahern’s financial affairs at the Mahon Tribunal.[a]sisting that he has never taken a corrupt payment, Ahern said he was resigning in the best interests of the country, and was tired of headlines about "my life, my lifestyle, my finances". Ahern will leave office within days of addressing the US Houses of Congress and a visit to Ireland by the Japanese prime minister.[a]
CALLED A LIAR PERJURER AND CORRUPT
But the leader of Ireland's main opposition party, Fine Gael chief Enda Kenny, said Mr. Ahern had suffered unprecedented public criticism as "a liar and perjurer," and had "bowed to the inevitable" because of his implausible testimony to an anti-corruption tribunal.[tb]
A RIVAL SPEAKS
Kenny, whose rival coalition narrowly lost an election last year to Fianna Fail, called on his successor to mount an immediate general election. Analysts agreed this was unlikely.[tb]. Ahern's terms in office have been marked by unprecedented economic success at home and peace in the neighboring British territory of Northern Ireland.[tb]
POLL
The snap poll was carried out on Thursday, just a week since the last Red C poll for the Sunday Business Post.[r]
500 voters were questioned, just half the normal sample, so the margin of error is higher, but the shift in opinion is still striking.[r]
This poll, carried out a day after Bertie Ahern's shock announcement that he will resign on the 6th of May, shows an increase in support for Fianna F€il of five percent to 40.[b]
TANAISTE
The poll comes as Tanaiste Brian Cowen prepares to take over the reigns from Bertie Ahern who will leave office in a matter of weeks.[b]
FIANNA FAIL OR FINE GAEL
Fianna Fáil support, at 40%, is up five points since last week, while Fine Gael drop two to 28%, Labour is unchanged at 11%, the Greens gain one to 9%, Sinn Féin drops three to 6%, the PDs are stuck at 1%, and Independents and Others drop two to 5% support.[r]
TAOISEARCH
Asked who would make the better Taoiseach, 63% opt for Brian Cowen compared to 24% per cent who prefer Fine Gael leader Enda Kenny. 13% either do not know or do not like either option.[r]
PRETTY BOY TO BULL DOG
It is entirely fitting at this time that we should opt for a more homely, culchie Taoiseach, rather than the glitzy, celebrity Taoiseach we have enjoyed up to now. Bertie, the VIP Taoiseach, with his boyband son-in-law, celebrity authoress daughter, glamourpuss girlfriends, or glamourpuss girlfriend anyway, was a fitting top man for the boom. [I]
NO BENDING KNEE TO ROYALS
Fianna Fáil, as a republican party, doesn't believe bending the knee to aristocrats but in purely party terms they don't come much more blue-blooded than Brian Cowen. [BBC]
Mr Cowen was 24 when he was elected to the Dáil in 1984 in a by-election in the Laois-Offaly constituency. It was caused by the death of his father, Ber, at the age of 52. [BBC]
A LAWYER HE IS...
A solicitor and a GAA enthusiast, Mr Cowen has served in six cabinet posts including the important portfolios as minister for finance and minister for foreign affairs. [BBC]
Rather like Gordon Brown and Tony Blair, Brian Cowen had been Bertie Ahern's expected successor for some time. But that is where all similarities end. [BBC]
GRASS ROOTS CONNECTION
The Fianna Fáil leader designate, who is loved by the grassroots, puts a premium on party loyalty and did nothing to undermine Bertie Ahern or hasten his exit. [BBC]
LETTING THE PURGED BACK INTO THE PARTY
Meanwhile, Mayo TD Beverley Flynn, who has been readmitted to the party, said she considered herself to be quite close to Mr Cowen, despite the fact that he was the politician who originally proposed her expulsion from the party.[IT]
She said she felt their relationship was "100 per cent" although as she has been out of the party in recent years, she had not had much opportunity to meet him. Ms Flynn added that she was delighted to be returning to Fianna Fáil, which she described as her natural home. [IT]
TÁNAISTE AND Minister for Finance Brian Cowen has formally declared himself a candidate for the leadership of Fianna Fáil. He is on course to become the seventh leader of the party since 1926 when nominations close at 2pm today. Stephen Collins and Harry McGee report.[I]
MAHON TRIBUNAL
22% of voters though Mr Ahern should not have resigned, while 31% say they did not want him to go but he had no option after recent revelations. 20% thought it was about time he resigned, and 24% thought he should have gone as soon as the Mahon Tribunal began investigating his affairs.[r]
MR COWEN
Mr Cowen gave no clues about the likely composition of his cabinet after he is formally elected taoiseach by the Dáil on May 7th. However, he gave a hint that he was not contemplating a major Cabinet reshuffle saying that in a Cabinet of qualified people he regarded himself as "primus inter pares" - first among equals.[I]
IRELAND TODAY
The newly affluent middle class in Ireland is almost entirely reliant on the value of their properties. A third of all the houses in Ireland were built in the last 10 years and their value has shot up by 270% in that decade. So people will not be that rich if the credit crunch gale brings the housing market crashing down. Wages themselves are not that high in Ireland and relative wealth has exposed the tiger's underbelly.[S]
A GROWING COUNTRY
A society only a few generations' memory from communal rural living is now divided by huge inequalities of wealth. The countryside and much of its urban architecture have been ruined by unsightly development. Reluctance to invest in the public sector has left the health service, never a patch on what the NHS provides in the UK, struggling. State education is deemed unreliable unless, like 75% of Dublin parents did last year, you pay for extra tuition for your children.[S]
For a decade, the Irish political establishment saw its job as setting a low-tax environment, attracting foreign investment and keeping labour costs down. Ireland had been poor for so long that any development was welcome and there was no mood for criticism.[S]
Now, in the shadow of pork-barrel politics and shady back-scratching in business and political culture, it seems that too much might have been forgiven.[S]
'Dour image' [BBC]
Mr Cowen has a rather dour and grumpy public image. [BBC]
But even his opponents agree he is very intelligent while his supporters acknowledge he can be a rough diamond. [BBC]
Married with two daughters, Mr Cowen has a reputation for being a great wit and a wicked mimic in the company of fellow TDs in the Dáil bar late at night but the public rarely gets to see his funny side. [BBC]
While minister for health, he is reputed to have called the notoriously difficult to manage department "Angola" because of all the political landmines lying around waiting to explode. [BBC]
When Albert Reynolds succeeded Charles Haughey as Fianna Fáil leader and Taoiseach in 1992, he promoted Brian Cowen from the backbenches to the full cabinet. [BBC]
Both Mr Cowen and Mr Reynolds were seen as being on Fianna Fail's "country and western wing" that opposed Mr Haughey. [BBC]
When Albert Reynolds was having trouble with his then coalition partners, the Progressive Democrats, Brian Cowen, the political bruiser, once told a party Ard Fhéis to rapturous applause: "What about the PDs? When in doubt, leave them out." [BBC]
When Mr Reynolds, his mentor, was forced to resign as Taoiseach, Brian Cowen took it badly; some TDs say he sulked for over a year before bouncing back. [BBC]
His critics say that, despite his undoubted intelligence, he has rarely left a mark in any of the ministeries he has held; that he has been too cautious and maybe even overly dependent on civil service advice. [BBC]
They contrast his period as finance minister with that of his predecessor Charlie McCreevy. [BBC]
But his supporters say it was easy for Mr McCreevy to be innovative when he presided over the boom years of the Celtic Tiger economy. [BBC]
Mr Cowen's period dealing with Northern Ireland is probably best remembered for unflattering remarks Ian Paisley made about his lips, something that greatly annoyed callers to radio phone-in shows in Dublin. [BBC]
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RTE News
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0406/politics.html
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INDEPENDENT.IE
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/speaking-plainly-brian-looks-every-inch-a-leader-1339781.html
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Belfast Telegraph
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/breaking-news/ireland/politics/article3586822.ece
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The Irish Times
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/0405/1207343051742.html
[BBC]
BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7331731.stm
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Sunday Herald
http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2174728.0.0.php
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An Phoblacht
http://www.anphoblacht.com/news/detail/26961
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The Bulletin
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=19449676&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8
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Cap Headlines and comments ot Terry Bankert
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Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoiseach
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Bullets for prayers!
China slams proposed US House resolution on Tibet. [afp]
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REFLECTION; Freedom is won by people in the manner that the people of Tibet are advancing their position. Americans should take notice. We seem to think that another country with guns can force democracy. All the people of Tibet want is self rule under the Chinese Flag. I hope they earn it, we should stay out of it.[trb]
THE REAL ROAD TO FREEDOM!
Tibetans wounded as Chinese police fire on pilgrim protest. [to]
"These protests have also conveyed to the world that the Tibet issue can no longer be neglected."[n]
STAY OUT OF OUR INTERNAL ISSUES, YOU MEDDLERS
China on Monday attacked a proposed new US Congressional resolution on the Tibet crisis as one-sided, and urged American lawmakers to stop interfering in the issue.[afp]
CRIMINALS IN OUR MIDST AND YOU WANT TO MAKE A SOCIAL POINT!
A Chinese foreign ministry statement said a resolution tabled by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi last week ignored "criminal acts" that it said were orchestrated by the exiled Tibetan Buddhist leader the Dalai Lama.[afp]
BULLETS FOR PRAYERS
TIBETAN FREEDOM
A CRIMINAL CLIQUE THE LAMA LEADS
LAMA WANTS SELF RULE IN CHINA
LET THE GAMES BEGIN
"I have from the very beginning supported the holding of these Games in Beijing. My position on this remains unchanged," the Dalai Lama said.[n]
FREEDOM REQUIRES STRUGGLE
THE U.S. IS HURTING OUR FEELINGS
WHAT DO YOU WANT ,THE RESOLUTION WAS TABLED
Last Thursday, Pelosi tabled a resolution calling on Beijing to end its crackdown on peaceful protests in Tibet and begin a dialogue with the Dalai Lama to address the grievances of the Tibetan people.[afp]
20 PEOPLE HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF THE LAMA
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER 130, KILLED BY THE CHINESE?
Exiled Tibetan leaders, however, say at least 150 people have died in the Chinese crackdown on the demonstrations, which spread to Tibetan populated regions around China.[afp]
The Chinese authorities have been trying to end almost a month of protests and the depth of anti-Chinese sentiment among a Buddhist minority loyal to the exiled Dalai Lama. Last week in Donggu, which is also in the Garze Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture, paramilitary forces opened fire on protesters after a government official was seriously wounded. Eight people were killed, witnesses said. [to]
CHINA IS NOW MEDDLEING IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RESOLUTION PROCESS
"A small number of US congressmen have raised this resolution and have refused to condemn the smashing, looting and burning riots in Lhasa," the ministry statement said.[afp]
"They also do not condemn the behind-the-scenes organisation of these violent criminal acts by the Dalai Lama clique."[afp]
CHINA THE LAND OF SUMMARY EXECUTION IS OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS
LAMA SAYS HE IS NOT PART OF THIS HERD CAUSING THIS UNREST IN TIBET
Calls for a boycott of the Games have been mostly rejected, including by the Dalai Lama, with most - including the European Union - calling on China to hold talks with the Tibetan spiritual leader. More than a million people have signed online petitions calling for China to show restraint and respect for human rights in Tibet and to open dialogue with the Dalai Lama.[t]
The Dalai Lama has denied seeking independence or playing any role in the recent unrest which began May 10, the 49th anniversary of a failed uprising against Chinese rule in Tibet.[afp]
ONE WRITERS THOUGHTS
"I remember back in 1980 when people thought they were going to force the Soviets out of Afghanistan by boycotting the Olympics (in Moscow). It had no influence whatsoever."
Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt, The Sunday Age, March 30[t]
GEORGE IS EAGER TO SIT IN THE STANDS
Subsequent Congressional resolutions have included one that would bar US President George W. Bush from attending the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics in August. [afp]
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The Age.Com
http://www.theage.com.au/news/education-news/the-world-watches-china/2008/04/05/1207249479276.html
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AFP
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jJS5lqgNRlGJvtVP1uBHRp4XRUbg
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Times.Online
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3694762.ece
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National Post
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What we are for. Who leads us is less important
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REFLECTION- I can no longer believe in individuals, we are all shallow and blemished, just humans trying to make it to the next day.( Well then there is Al Gore, a special case.). What we should critically review is the system that our leaders or pseudo leaders use to rise to their various levels of public responsibility. In the last couple years I have made errors in judgement and supported individuals who I thought would make a change because of a core value system. Still naive at 57. So I ask what am I for. I am for the democratic party, but why? As always this is a topic I choose to learn a little about or just reflect on today and then dump into my blog. Its amazing how in your 30's you think you have all the answers and in your late 50's all you have is questions?[trb]
I AM A DEMOCRAT BECAUSE!
Why be a democrat ( grass roots member of the party ) or a Corporate Democrat ( Elected, appointed ,anointed leaders of the party) or a liberal ( its now OK to say you are a liberal in public again, I never stopped) or just bother being active in your countries , states, local government politics?[trb]
So I googled the question and here’s what I got with an hours effort.
I will leave the answer to why be a democrat to others. Lets see what they got![trb]
PARTY OF THE FUTURE NOT PROTECTOR OF THE PAST
"...the two political parties in our history have always been divided, as Emerson said, into the party of hope and the party of memory." - President John F. Kennedy [s]
HOPE AND OPTIMISM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJSn-aPuMRg
Governor Mark Warner
JOBS, EDUCATION,PRESERVE THE MIDDLE CLASS
"I'm a proud Democrat because our party has the right economic plan and the right priorities for Michigan. We fight for jobs, because a good job is the foundation of a good life. We fight for education, because we believe every child should have the opportunity to succeed. We fight for health care, because we know there are too many people in our state who don't have it and can't afford it. We fight to preserve our middle class way of life, because it's a way of life our families have worked so hard to build. We're a party with a plan and we're putting it to work for our families." -- Governor Jennifer M. Granholm, 2006[m]
beleive in a government that enhances the lives of its citizans with affordable health care, cleaner environment, strong living standards, and an innovative educational system. Most of all I am a Democrat because I believe in the will of the people.[t]
EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
"I am a Democrat because I believe in change now rather than later. As a Party, I believe we are committed to creating a better America, for those who are struggling to live their American Dream. Everyone in America, whether they are rich or poor, deserves an equal chance to succeed. As a Party, I also believe we are committed to fiscal policies that ensure the future for generations to come." -- Aghogho Edevbie [M]
STRONGER ENVIRONMENT
As many polls confirm, a majority of your fellow Americans believe in your agenda. They want stronger environmental laws, are strong supporters of women's rights, favor gun control and want the war in Iraq to end.[mm]
INCLUSION, SECURITY FOR COMMON PEOPLE
The Democratic party, at its best, is the party of inclusion and expansion...it is the party that led the drive after the great depression for social security of seniors, for jobs for common people, for mass-based education, for civil rights bills of the sixties." - Reverend Jesse Jackson [s]
Democrats consider all people’s concerns and needs… work for the middle and lower income… care about protecting the environment. [P]
HUMAN FAIRNESS
"I am a Democrat because I believe in the basic human fairness towards which the Democratic Party works. I am a Democrat because I believe the government should stand up for those who need it: the poor, racial minorities, the working class, the sick, veterans, immigrants, gays and lesbians, the elderly, and young people, among others. I am a Democrat because I believe in social equality. I believe in a fair shot at economic success for anyone who's willing to work hard. I believe that America can best support democracy and human rights abroad when it has an impeccable record itself. I am a Democrat because it is my firm belief that as long as Republicans are in control, none of what I just mentioned will happen in this country. As corny as it probably sounds, I really believe that 'America can do better.'" -- Ben Beckett[M]
HELP THE LEAST AMONG US
I choose to belong to a party of inclusion A party that includes the affluent and the working perspective. A party that looks out for the "least amoung us" whether we be old, minority, women, immigrant, sick, children...[t]
I am a Democrat because we are a party that passionately believes in suporting the goals and ideals of those folks in America whose voices must be heard the most- mothers, fathers, children, teachers, police officers, nurses, students, the ederly, the middle class, the working classs, the poor, the homeless, the hungry, the sick, and the needy....[T]
PROVIDE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LITTLE
"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - President Franklin D. Roosevelt [s]
FIGHT FOR FAMILIES NOT CORPORATIONS
"I learned at a very early age that being a Democrat means caring about people, caring about the future of our country. It is the Democratic party which always has and always will fight for american families. For their jobs and their futures." - Vice President Al Gore [s]
PEOPLE VALUES MAKE A DIFFERENCE
"I decided to be a Democrat starting in the presidential elections of 1960 when John F. Kennedy excited me with a promise to get the country moving again. I think he gave people a sense that they could make a difference." - President Bill Clinton [s]
EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL
"...the fundamental appeal of the Democratic party has always been grounded in the principles of fairness, opportunity, equal justice for all and a firm belief that the mission of government is not to stand on the sidelines, but to be active in pursuing these goals for the people." - Senator Ted Kennedy.[s]
FAIRNESS
The “Party of the people” represents and embodies the requisite principles of any reasonable Democracy – fairness, inclusion, progress and ethical responsibility. [P]
DEMOCRATS WILL PROTECT THE” LEAST” AMONG US. WHILE THE REPUBLICAMS GIVE PROFIT TO THE “MOST” AMONG US.
I am a Democratic because it is the Party that looks out for the little guy. It is diverse, representative of the community.[P]
A PARTY THAT KNOWS IT IS FOR PEOPLE OVER CORPORATIONS AND THE WEALTHY
Democratic Governor Adlai Stevenson at the 1952 Convention, "what counts now is not what we are against, but what we are for. Who leads us is less important than what lead - what convictions, what courage, what faith - win or lose."[t]
To all of the above. Well said! I WILL SUMMARIZE BELOW
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THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULD BE YOUR CHOICE BECAUSE?
THE FUTURE NOT PROTECTOR OF THE PAST
HOPE AND OPTIMISM ,JOBS, EDUCATION,PRESERVE THE MIDDLE CLASS
EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
STRONGER ENVIRONMENT
INCLUSION, SECURITY FOR COMMON PEOPLE
HUMAN FAIRNESS
HELP THE LEAST AMONG US
PROVIDE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LITTLE
FIGHT FOR FAMILIES NOT CORPORATIONS
PEOPLE VALUES MAKE A DIFFERENCE
EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL
FAIRNESS
DEMOCRATS WILL PROTECT THE” LEAST” AMONG US. WHILE THE REPUBLICAMS GIVE PROFIT TO THE “MOST” AMONG US.
A PARTY THAT KNOWS IT IS FOR PEOPLE OVER CORPORATIONS AND THE WEALTHY
Democratic Governor Adlai Stevenson at the 1952 Convention, "what counts now is not what we are against, but what we are for. Who leads us is less important....
Posted here by Terry Bankert 4/8/08...
http://attorneybankert.com/
Join my political party of preference,
http://www.michigandems.com/join.html
—where did this stuff come from---
[s]
San Diego Democratic Party
http://www.sddemocrats.org/why_demo.html
[h]
High Beam Research
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-91349413.html
[trb]
Comments of Terry Bankert to include the Cap Headlines.
http://attorneybankert.com/
[P]
Pitt County Democratic Party
http://pittdems.com/whydemocrats.html
[M]
Michigan Democratic Party
http://www.michigandems.com/whydem.html
[MM]
Michael Moore.Com
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikeinthenews/index.php?id=153
[t]
Taylor County Democratic Party
http://taylordemocrats.tripod.com/id8.html
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CITIZENS LIKE A GOOD FIGHT, DEMOCRATS DELIVER!
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GOOD MORNING FLINT!
BY Terry Bankert 4/09/08
You are invited to join me at Face Book http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry_Bankert/645845362
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Full Article at http://goodmorningflint.blogspot.com/
And summary at Flint Talk
http://flinttalk.com/viewtopic.php?p=27159#27159
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SUPER DELEGATES CAN STOP THE BATTLE
In a nation with roughly 200 million citizens of voting age, the presidential nomination of one of the two major political parties may be decided by about 800 party bigwigs.[p]
Democratic Party is driving voters away[l]
COMMON DEMOCRATS LIKE A GOOD FIGHT
Eager to stop intraparty fighting, dozens of local Democratic Party leaders are urging Virginia's superdelegates to unite around Barack Obama for president. [u]
Delegate Race: Obama, Clinton Headed for a Floor Battle?[f]
LEADERS DO NOT LIKE A GOOD FIGHT IT COULD COST THEM THEIR LEADERSHIP
DO NOT BE FOOLED THE DEMOCRATS WILL COME OUT OF THEIR CONVENTION TO KICK SOME MCCAIN BUTT
WHEN OBAMA WINS PENN., IT WILL BE ALL OVER AND OUR CONVENTION A LOVE FEST.
FROM SHOE -IN TO FAILING COME BACK KID! ...VP..ANYBOD
AFTER 8 YEARS OF BUSH DEMOCRATS OUTRAGE EASILY, ITS MCCAIN WE ARE NOW AFTER.
INFORMAL PETITION..PLEASE STOP..HILLARY!
The petition was intended to push the state's uncommitted delegates into forsaking Hillary Clinton in her nomination battle with Obama.[u]
LOCAL LEADERS NO MORE INFIGHTING
ITS NOT WORKING
SUPER DELEGATES BAD IDEA, WRONG HEADED ATTEMPT TO SOLVE THE OLD PROBLEMS IN A NEW DAY
CAN THE SUPER DELEGATES OVER RIDE THE POPULAR VOTE
CLINTON DELEGATES MAY ABANDON HILLARY
SUPER-DELEGATES DO NOT HAVE TO BE SUPER LEADERS
LOTS OF ATTENTION, 12 STEP PROGRAM NEEDED AFTER THE CONVENTION
WHY DOES THE PARTY OF THE COMMON CITIZEN HAVE ELITE SUPER DELEGATES
AND THE WINNER WILL BE......NOT KNOWN UNTIL THE SMOKED FILLED ROOM CLEARS...AND SUPER DELEGATES ARE RETURNED TO MERE MORTALS
OBAMA HAS THE POPULAR VOTE, HILLARY THE UN-POPULAR VOTE
JUST WHO ARE THESE SUPER DELEGATES
A HILLARY BREECH....FLOOD TO FOLLOW
MR. DECISIVE HAS NO POSITION! WELL THERE THAT WEBB FOR VP THING.
PETITION TO NO WHERE
NOW HERE IS A LEADER
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday she favors a reduction in the number of super-delegates — and their oversized influence — in choosing the Democratic Party's nominee.[A]
Asked how she would make the process more democratic, Pelosi recommended cutting the number of super-delegates.[S]
NATIONAL CONVENTION CREDENTIALS COMMITTEE WILL DECIDE WHO IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, INDIRECTLY
FIRST VOLLEY.....
BO PERMEATES THE COMMITTEE
Right now, Barack Obama has the lead in pledged delegates, so he will have more committee members. However, there is still a chance that the question of the Florida and Michigan delegates could reach the floor of the convention. If 20% of the credentials committee signs a minority resolution, it then goes to the entire convention for a vote. As my colleague Paul M. Murdock discussed earlier today, Hillary Clinton’s prospects in the remaining primary contests are looking dimmer and dimmer, and this could be her last hope at winning the nomination.[f]
Posted here by Terry Bankert 4/9/08... http://attorneybankert.com/
Join my political party of preference,
http://www.michigandems.com/join.html
— WHERE DID THIS STUFF COME FROM----
[u]
USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-08-obama-superdelegates_N.htm
[S]
Seattlepi.news
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/358203_superonline09.html
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AP
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gGMneW6aX-wcvIOjZoXN7jPj9C-QD8VTTMJO0
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Las Vegas Sun
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/apr/08/democratic-party-driving-voters-away/
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Boston.com
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/04/07/dean_expects_to_seat_fla_mich_delegates/
[TRB]
Comments of Terry Bankert and Cap headlines
http://attorneybankert.com/
[P]
The Daily Princtonian
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2008/04/08/20783/
[F]
Forbes.com
http://blogs.forbes.com/trailwatch/2008/04/delegate-race-o.html
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Democratic National Convention
http://www.demconvention.com/dnc-elects-standing-committee-leadership-for-2008-democratic-national-convention-2/
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NY Daily News
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/04/09/2008-04-09_hillary_clintons_big_pa_lead_takes_spill.html
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terrybankert schreef:
What we are for. Who leads us is less important
REFLECTION- I can no longer believe in individuals, we are all shallow and blemished, just humans trying to make it to the next day.( Well then there is Al Gore, a special case.). What we should critically review is the system that our leaders or pseudo leaders use to rise to their various levels of public responsibility. In the last couple years I have made errors in judgement and supported individuals who I thought would make a change because of a core value system. Still naive at 57. So I ask what am I for. I am for the democratic party, but why? As always this is a topic I choose to learn a little about or just reflect on today and then dump into my blog. Its amazing how in your 30's you think you have all the answers and in your late 50's all you have is questions?[trb]
I AM A DEMOCRAT BECAUSE!
Why be a democrat ( grass roots member of the party ) or a Corporate Democrat ( Elected, appointed ,anointed leaders of the party) or a liberal ( its now OK to say you are a liberal in public again, I never stopped) or just bother being active in your countries , states, local government politics?[trb]
So I googled the question and here’s what I got with an hours effort.
I will leave the answer to why be a democrat to others. Lets see what they got![trb]
PARTY OF THE FUTURE NOT PROTECTOR OF THE PAST
"...the two political parties in our history have always been divided, as Emerson said, into the party of hope and the party of memory." - President John F. Kennedy [s]
HOPE AND OPTIMISM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJSn-aPuMRg
Governor Mark Warner
JOBS, EDUCATION,PRESERVE THE MIDDLE CLASS
"I'm a proud Democrat because our party has the right economic plan and the right priorities for Michigan. We fight for jobs, because a good job is the foundation of a good life. We fight for education, because we believe every child should have the opportunity to succeed. We fight for health care, because we know there are too many people in our state who don't have it and can't afford it. We fight to preserve our middle class way of life, because it's a way of life our families have worked so hard to build. We're a party with a plan and we're putting it to work for our families." -- Governor Jennifer M. Granholm, 2006[m]
beleive in a government that enhances the lives of its citizans with affordable health care, cleaner environment, strong living standards, and an innovative educational system. Most of all I am a Democrat because I believe in the will of the people.[t]
EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
"I am a Democrat because I believe in change now rather than later. As a Party, I believe we are committed to creating a better America, for those who are struggling to live their American Dream. Everyone in America, whether they are rich or poor, deserves an equal chance to succeed. As a Party, I also believe we are committed to fiscal policies that ensure the future for generations to come." -- Aghogho Edevbie [M]
STRONGER ENVIRONMENT
As many polls confirm, a majority of your fellow Americans believe in your agenda. They want stronger environmental laws, are strong supporters of women's rights, favor gun control and want the war in Iraq to end.[mm]
INCLUSION, SECURITY FOR COMMON PEOPLE
The Democratic party, at its best, is the party of inclusion and expansion...it is the party that led the drive after the great depression for social security of seniors, for jobs for common people, for mass-based education, for civil rights bills of the sixties." - Reverend Jesse Jackson [s]
Democrats consider all people’s concerns and needs… work for the middle and lower income… care about protecting the environment. [P]
HUMAN FAIRNESS
"I am a Democrat because I believe in the basic human fairness towards which the Democratic Party works. I am a Democrat because I believe the government should stand up for those who need it: the poor, racial minorities, the working class, the sick, veterans, immigrants, gays and lesbians, the elderly, and young people, among others. I am a Democrat because I believe in social equality. I believe in a fair shot at economic success for anyone who's willing to work hard. I believe that America can best support democracy and human rights abroad when it has an impeccable record itself. I am a Democrat because it is my firm belief that as long as Republicans are in control, none of what I just mentioned will happen in this country. As corny as it probably sounds, I really believe that 'America can do better.'" -- Ben Beckett[M]
HELP THE LEAST AMONG US
I choose to belong to a party of inclusion A party that includes the affluent and the working perspective. A party that looks out for the "least amoung us" whether we be old, minority, women, immigrant, sick, children...[t]
I am a Democrat because we are a party that passionately believes in suporting the goals and ideals of those folks in America whose voices must be heard the most- mothers, fathers, children, teachers, police officers, nurses, students, the ederly, the middle class, the working classs, the poor, the homeless, the hungry, the sick, and the needy....[T]
PROVIDE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LITTLE
"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - President Franklin D. Roosevelt [s]
FIGHT FOR FAMILIES NOT CORPORATIONS
"I learned at a very early age that being a Democrat means caring about people, caring about the future of our country. It is the Democratic party which always has and always will fight for american families. For their jobs and their futures." - Vice President Al Gore [s]
PEOPLE VALUES MAKE A DIFFERENCE
"I decided to be a Democrat starting in the presidential elections of 1960 when John F. Kennedy excited me with a promise to get the country moving again. I think he gave people a sense that they could make a difference." - President Bill Clinton [s]
EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL
"...the fundamental appeal of the Democratic party has always been grounded in the principles of fairness, opportunity, equal justice for all and a firm belief that the mission of government is not to stand on the sidelines, but to be active in pursuing these goals for the people." - Senator Ted Kennedy.[s]
FAIRNESS
The “Party of the people” represents and embodies the requisite principles of any reasonable Democracy – fairness, inclusion, progress and ethical responsibility. [P]
DEMOCRATS WILL PROTECT THE” LEAST” AMONG US. WHILE THE REPUBLICAMS GIVE PROFIT TO THE “MOST” AMONG US.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULD BE YOUR CHOICE BECAUSE?
THE FUTURE NOT PROTECTOR OF THE PAST
HOPE AND OPTIMISM ,JOBS, EDUCATION,PRESERVE THE MIDDLE CLASS
EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
STRONGER ENVIRONMENT
INCLUSION, SECURITY FOR COMMON PEOPLE
HUMAN FAIRNESS
HELP THE LEAST AMONG US
PROVIDE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LITTLE
FIGHT FOR FAMILIES NOT CORPORATIONS
PEOPLE VALUES MAKE A DIFFERENCE
EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL
FAIRNESS
DEMOCRATS WILL PROTECT THE” LEAST” AMONG US. WHILE THE REPUBLICAMS GIVE PROFIT TO THE “MOST” AMONG US.
A PARTY THAT KNOWS IT IS FOR PEOPLE OVER CORPORATIONS AND THE WEALTHY
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HOPE AND OPTIMISM ,JOBS, EDUCATION,PRESERVE THE MIDDLE CLASS
I think we did better under past conservative Republican leadership.
EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
Republicans tend to support equality and oppose discrimination agains
STRONGER ENVIRONMENT
I guess killing human beings abortion would help the environement. Republicans do tend to be anti-abortion. Capitalism tends to use resources more efficiently and republicans tend to be more captalists.
INCLUSION, SECURITY FOR COMMON PEOPLE
Republicans tend to support the right to bear arms which helps the common people be able to defend themselves.
HUMAN FAIRNESS
Republicans tend to be more supportive of people being able to keep what they earn which I'd say is pretty fair.
HELP THE LEAST AMONG US
I don't think welfare is the best solution to helping the least among us. I think jobs is a better solution.
PROVIDE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LITTLE
Under socialism more of us will have little.
FIGHT FOR FAMILIES NOT CORPORATIONS
Families often work for corporations. Jobs help families provide for themselves so they don't need government programs.
PEOPLE VALUES MAKE A DIFFERENCE
Liberal dems tend to support things like gay marriage and sodomy.
EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL
Although the Robin Hood Approach seems like the best approach it reduces the incentive for business owners to be successful.
FAIRNESS
This is supported by Republicans.
DEMOCRATS WILL PROTECT THE” LEAST” AMONG US. WHILE THE REPUBLICAMS GIVE PROFIT TO THE “MOST” AMONG US.
That's right. The democrats are the party for poor people to take handouts from the rich people who are often the ones to start businesses and creat jobs. We are heading towards a situation where there will not be enough rich people to pay for all the poor people.
A PARTY THAT KNOWS IT IS FOR PEOPLE OVER CORPORATIONS AND THE WEALTHY
Marxism and nazism (people's parties) weren't very successful. Captialism tends to have better success. |
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Adam's Quote:
*****PEOPLE VALUES MAKE A DIFFERENCE
Liberal dems tend to support things like gay marriage and sodomy.*****
Andi's response:
Nah, it's called letting two people that love each other, love each other legally, and staying out of people's bedrooms.  |
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Adam
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andi03 schreef:
Adam's Quote:
*****PEOPLE VALUES MAKE A DIFFERENCE
Liberal dems tend to support things like gay marriage and sodomy.*****
Andi's response:
Nah, it's called letting two people that love each other, love each other legally, and staying out of people's bedrooms.
I never said Republicans were against privacy laws. I'm a little more libertarian though than most Republicans. I don't think straight people should have to get permission (license) from the government to get married. |
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Oy, Adam,
Let me rephrase.....ahem.
There is nothing wrong with same sex couples getting married.
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OIL IS OUR SLAVE MASTER, WHOSE HAND IS ON THE WHIP?
_________________________
GOOD MORNING FLINT!
BY Terry Bankert 4/10/08
You are invited to join me at Face Book http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry_Bankert/645845362
_________________________
Full Article at http://goodmorningflint.blogspot.com/
And summary at Flint Talk
http://flinttalk.com/viewtopic.php?p=27181#27181
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REFLECTION: I am just starting to read Zubrin” Energy Victory” and with my friend Karen and Lynn will hear him speak in Flint this week. I plan on learning energy policy and contributing in a small manner from my little pumpkin patch in Flint MI USA. What about you?[trb]
For a Time, Crude Oil Tops $112 a Barrel [n]
RVs beckon baby boomers despite fuel costs[a]
At Nation's Largest RV Rally, Well-to-Do Baby Boomers Barely Register Fuel Costs[a]
To the people of the United States of America- still the last best hope of mankind- whose lives, fortunes, and freedoms are being gravely endangered by their leaders continued failure to act responsibly for energy security.[z]
I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THIS STUFF WAS $25 A BARREL
HOW DID WE GET IN THIS MESS? Can THESE GUYS CAN TELL US?
Five U.S. oil company executives appeared on Capitol Hill on Tuesday to explain why they were not to blame for record-high gasoline pump prices even as they reported $123 billion in profits in 2007.[b]
GOVERNMENTAL POLICY MATTERS..THERE IS NO FREE MARKET, SUPPLY AND DEMAND THEORY DOES NOT WORK FOR THE CONSUMER IN A MONOPOLY.
Crude prices soared after the U.S. Department of Energy (DoE) on Wednesday reported that energy stockpiles in the United States had dropped across the board during the week ending April4 [F].
As a result of our failure to enact a competent energy policy, out country is being looted, and the enemies power has been fabulously multiplied. We are financing a war against ourselves. And with the rapid industrialization of China and India increasing global Demand for oil, prices are set to soar even further. Unless action is taken things are about to get much worse.[z at pg 11]
WHAT ALTERNATIVES DO WE HAVE?
Rep. Ed Markey of Massachusetts, a long-time oil industry critic and chairman of the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, called the hearing entitled "Drilling for Answers: Oil Company Profits, Runaway Prices and the Pursuit of Alternatives."[B]
FIRST WE TAKE AWAY THEIR TAX BREAKS, TAX BREAKS IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY?
EXEC. SAY ITS NOT OUR FAULT DON’T SPANK US? CAN JUST A TIME OUT!
SUPPLY AND DEMAND THEORY DOES NOT WORK IN A MONOPOLY
ITS NOT ECONOMICS ITS ECONOMIC WAR
HEY BUSH, IS A WEAK DOLLAR A GOOD THING
JUST A BUNCH OF RICH PEOPLE MAKING MORE $
“ In 1972, Saudi foreign exchange earnings were 2.7 billion. In 2006 they topped 200 Billion. Ober the same period, the United States dependency upon foreign oil grew from 30 percent to 60 per cent and our annual oil import bill grew from less than $4 billion to more than 260 billion.” [z at pg 11]
HAS OUR LACK OF COHERENT ENERGY POLICIES ALLOWED A U.S.. GOUGING AND RECESSION?
ETHANOL BLEND....RBOB?
WHO HIGH DOES A GALLON OF GAS HAVE TO GET BEFORE YOU GET ANGRY?
BOOMERS DO NOT CARE, WELL AT LEAST NOT THE ONES WITH MONEY.
WILL GAS PRICES AFFECT YOUR SUMMER RECREATION?
Many people will be faced with the dilemma that it no longer pays them to drive to work. In areas like Somerset County without mass transit, people have little alternatives to driving.[d]
High prices have a ripple effect throughout the economy. People have to cut costs somewhere, so they reduce their purchases at stores and eat out less frequently.[d]
GLOBAL DEMAND UP, DOMESTIC PRICE UP, THEY NEED WE PAY!
WILL THIS ALTER OUR ECONOMIC DECISIONS, GAS PER GALLON AT $4 $5 OR $6?
Analysts believe higher oil and gas prices mean consumers will have less disposable income to spend elsewhere.[na]
OIL COMPANIES GET RICHER
Meanwhile, oil companies are making record profits. Executives say the money is needed for infrastructure costs, but no new refineries have been built since 1976.[d]
STATE COFFERS ENRICHED BY OUR MISERY
State taxes on gasoline add to people’s total costs. While Pennsylvania needs revenue to repair roads and bridges, the tax should be lowered while the gasoline costs are so high.[d]
CONGRESS DOES NOTHING?
Congress has been talking for years about taking action to reduce gasoline costs, but so far, it is only talk. Something has to be done and soon before the economy worsens. [d]
WE MUST ACT! OUR LIVES AND OUR CHILDREN’S CHILDREN’S LIVES WILL TURN ON THE ENERGY POLICIES WE ADOPT TODAY, TOMORROW AND NEXT YEAR. OIL CAN NO LONGER BE ALLOWED TO BE OUR SLAVE MASTER!
“ This the men of democratic times require to be free in order to procure those physical enjoyments for which they are always longing. It sometimes happens , however, that the excessive taste they conceive for these same enjoyments makes them surrender to the first master that appears... These people think they are following the principals of self interest, but the idea they entertain of that principal is a very crude one; and the better to look after what they call their own business, they neglect their chief business, which is to remain their own masters.”-Alexis de Tocqueville “ Democracy in America “1840 [z]
Only the wise can be free.-Chrysippus, Greek philosopher, third century BCE [z]
Posted here by Terry Bankert 4/10/08...
http://attorneybankert.com/
Join my political party of preference,
http://www.michigandems.com/join.html
—where did this stuff come from---
[n]
The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/business/10oil.html?ref=business
[a]
ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/BusinessTravel/story?id=4492971&page=1
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Rightside Advisors
http://www.rightsideadvisors.com/public/commentary.go/rsa/commentary/comm-energy/20080410_021301_msg.html/4-Gasoline--5-Diesel.html
[s]
The Santa Fe New Mexican.com
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Business/Business-in-brief-041008
[trb]
Comments of Terry Bankert to include cap headlines
[d]
Daily American
http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2008/04/09/opinion/editorials/editorial825.txt
[b]
Baseline
http://www.baselinemag.com/c/a/Government/Congress-Grills-Oil-Execs-on-Pump-Prices/
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News Room America
http://www.newsroomamerica.com/business/story.php?id=413911
[f]
Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2008/04/10/afx4873657.html
[Z]
Robert Zurbrin “Energy Victory” Winning the War on Terror by Breaking Free of Oil, 2007 prometheus books
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Oy, Adam,
Let me rephrase.....ahem.
There is nothing wrong with same sex couples getting married.
edited: wrong wording.
Last I checked we do have religious freedom in this country but I don't think the government should be allowed to force churches to sin. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson etc did not have marriage liceses. I think we should go back to the old system. |
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Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:47 pm |
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andi03
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quote:
Adam Ford schreef:
quote:
andi03 schreef:
Oy, Adam,
Let me rephrase.....ahem.
There is nothing wrong with same sex couples getting married.
edited: wrong wording.
Last I checked we do have religious freedom in this country but I don't think the government should be allowed to force churches to sin. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson etc did not have marriage liceses. I think we should go back to the old system.
The old system consisted of society telling you whom to marry and to clear it with the Anglican Church at the time, by those people that you had mentioned and the era that's implied.
I believe that God meant for people to love each other and spend the rest of their lives together with His blessing. No matter what sexual preference is. |
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Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:25 pm |
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The old system consisted of society telling you whom to marry
If I should come back in a different life I hope they force me to marry Jessica Alba.  
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Are you the "baby daddy"?  |
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