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NAFTA foes hope Dems' words turn into action ( C )
GOOD MORNING FLINT!
BY Terry Bankert 3/25/08
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When the nation gets a cold Flint MI USA get phenomena. If NAFTA hurt your working men and women a little it devastated us. So we have a right to complain. Now I understand macro economics but trade policy should be challenged and open to modification at all times. To cry protectionism now simply will fuel a debate and resulting in reasonable modification to or elimination of NAFTA which has devastated the working men and women of this country. I guess I have an opinion.[trb)
TAPS FOR NAFTA
Is the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) dying? Both Hillary Clinton or Barrack Obama have made campaign promises to “renegotiate” the 14-year-old trade agreement that generally has resulted in a boom for U.S. trucking and railroad interests.(T)
ANOTHER STAIN ON BILLS RECORD
Since NAFTA was adopted in 1994 under the first Clinton administration, it basically created open trade, free of duties and tariffs, among the U.S. Mexico and Canada. But both Democratic candidates have sounded a protectionist tone during their campaign, threatening to renegotiate NAFTA and other free trade agreements to make them more favorable on labor and environmental grounds.(T)
NAFTA INTENDED TO KILL ORGANIZED LABOR IN THE USA
Sen. Bernie Sanders believes the country is ready to join his fight to overhaul American trade policy. He wants to believeBarrack Obama and Hillary Clinton are too.©)
A LIBERAL VIEWPOINT (FINALLY WE CAN BE SEEN IN PUBLIC AGAIN)
Sanders, a liberal Vermont independent who caucuses with Democrats, is a leader in the growing group of lawmakers who blame expanded trade for lost manufacturing jobs and stagnant wages for American workers. The campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination would appear to promise them a crowning achievement: Both Obama and Clinton say they'll renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement and push for a more worker-friendly trade model if elected.©)
A POLICY THAT FORCED LOWER WAGES ON YOUR FAMILY!
WE ARE AT ECONOMIC WAR WITH THE COUNTRIES THAT HAVE OIL OR CHEAP LABOR.
WE HAVE TO MAKE THEM SERIOUS
NAFTA is a trilateral free trade deal that came into force in January 1994, signed by Democratic President Bill Clinton. The central thrust of the agreement is to eliminate the vast majority of tariffs on products traded among the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The terms of the agreement called for these tariffs to be phased out gradually, and the final aspects of the deal weren't fully implemented until January 1, 2008. The deal swept away export tariffs in several industries: agriculture has been a major focus, but tariffs have also been reduced on items like textiles and automobiles. NAFTA also implemented intellectual-property protections, established dispute-resolution mechanisms, and put into place regional labor and environmental safeguards, though some critics now lobby for stronger measures on this front. (W)
NEEDED: A NAFTA MAKE OVER
WHY ARE WE BUYING CHINESE JUNK PRODUCTS? ARE YOU AN ECONOMIC TRAITOR TO SHOP IN A DOLLAR STORE?
A winning issue?©)
Brown, Sanders and other Senate and House candidates ran on trade reform in their winning 2006 campaigns. Clinton and Obama began to pound the issue in the run-up to Ohio's March 4 presidential primary. They denounced "job-killing" trade deals and promised to crack down on companies that ship factory work overseas, drawing cheers in a state where dwindling manufacturing employment and soaring foreclosure rates have ratcheted up voters' anxieties.©)
VOTERS THINK THESE TRADE DEALS HAVE COST AMERICA ITS JOBS
Exit polls showed 4 of 5 voters in Ohio's Democratic primary believe trade deals with other countries take jobs from their state. The numbers figure to look similar in Pennsylvania, which is one state east of Ohio in the Rust Belt and holds its primary April 22. Nationwide, a Wall Street Journal poll last fall found 6 in 10 Republicans say trade deals have been bad for the U.S. economy.©)
SOME ECONOMISTS DISAGREE
SIDE DEALS WITH CANADA
THE RUSTIES SHOULD NOT BLAME THE NAFTEES
MC CAIN: LET THEM EAT CAKE
MC CAIN: I’M STUPID ON ECONOMIC POLICY, REMEMBER 911....PLEASE!
BOYCOTT ANYTHING MADE IN CHINA
The Democrats' rhetoric has jarred some trade proponents. But for the most part, it hasn't worried them.©)
A GRAIN OF SALT OR ECONOMIC REVOLUTION?
"There obviously has been a lot of rhetoric and discussion on the campaign trail," said Christopher Wenk, the senior director for international policy of the pro-trade U.S. Chamber of Commerce. "You talk to anybody in Washington; I think there are concerns there about what's being said. But many of us, myself included, are taking this with a grain of salt. ... Bashing NAFTA plays well with Ohio voters."©)
FREE MARKETS OR EXPLOITATION
NO TO NAFTA...NO TO NAFTA....NO TO NAFTA!!!!
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The Chicago Tribune
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-trade25mar25,0,3452426.story
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Comments of Terry Bankert and BLOCK headlines
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The Truth About Trade
http://www.truthabouttrade.org/content/view/11349/54/
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Associated press
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iNxTApa2sQRu0Xx99P3jt2bEXw7gD8VKAI080
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The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/24/AR2008032401562.html
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The Gazette
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/letters/story.html?id=82f25aee-d8e7-4235-8491-6f5b762e81f4
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INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY: Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick
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GOOD MORNING FLINT! BY Terry Bankert 3/26/08
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Mayor's Perjury Case Not Open and Shut [g]
Legal experts said Tuesday that the heart of the perjury case against Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick - steamy text messages that seem to contradict his sworn denials of an affair with an aide - might be less open-and-shut than many believe. [g]
Kilpatrick's lawyer, meanwhile, has suggested the prosecutors' case hinges on "vague, indefinite and ambiguous" questions that hardly resulted in enough evidence to warrant the charges. [t]
The two were charged on Monday, when prosecutor Kym Worthy announced that she had authorised a 12-count criminal indictment. [b]
Kilpatrick: 8 charges
Conspiracy to obstruct justice: 1 charge; 5-year felony
Obstruction of justice: 1 charge, related to the firing former Deputy Chief Gary Brown, interfering with Brown's investigation of him and perjury about his alleged affair with Beatty; 5-year felony
Misconduct in office: 2 charges, related to Brown's firing, perjury and authorizing an $8.4 million settlement of whistle-blower lawsuits by Brown and two other cops to hide incriminating text messages; each charge a 5-year felony
Perjury: 4 charges, related to trial and deposition testimony relating to his alleged affair with Beatty and Brown's firing, each charge a 15-year felony Beatty: 7 charges
Conspiracy to obstruct justice: 1 charge; 5-year felony
Obstruction of justice : 1 charge, 5-year felony related to the firing of Brown, interfering with his investigation of the mayor and perjury about her affair with Kilpatrick
Misconduct in office: 1 charge, 5-year felony related to Brown's firing and perjury about her alleged affair with mayor
Perjury: 4 charges, related to trial and deposition testimony relating to Brown's firing and her affair with Kilpatrick; each charge a 15-year felony[d]
HIGH TEXT AND AMBIGUITY, Plenty of room to extract innocence.[trb]
Kilpatrick's attorneys want to keep the intimate and sexually explicit text messages out of a trial, and at least one outside defense lawyer says the admissibility of such high-tech communications is an unsettled legal question. [g]
Even if they are admitted, experts say the defense will exploit any ambiguity in the messages, in the questions the mayor and former Chief of Staff Christine Beatty were asked under oath, and in their answers. [g]
IS REASONABLE DOUBT, REASONABLE?
``If the questions were not clear, and that's going to be used to prove the case, then that's another avenue in trying to establish a reasonable doubt,'' former federal prosecutor Matthew Orwig said Tuesday. [g]
SPEECHLESS IN DETROIT
On Tuesday, the usually gregarious Kilpatrick was subdued as he stood mute to eight felony charges of perjury, conspiracy, obstruction of justice and misconduct in office during his arraignment in Detroit. Beatty also stood mute to seven of those charges. [g]
A GOOD PROSECUTOR AND A BAD MAYOR
In a Monday morning press conference, Wayne County's top prosecutor, Kym L. Worthy, charged Kilpatrick with eight felonies, including perjury, obstruction of justice and misconduct for the text messages he allegedly traded with his paramour, Christine Beatty. (Beatty was also charged with seven felonies, including perjury.) Worthy also said several other individuals may be charged in connection with the case. [t]
WILL NOT RESIGN
The charismatic Kilpatrick, 37, who was happy to be known as the nation's first "hip-hop mayor," today dismissed Worthy's investigation as "flawed" and indicated he has no plans to resign, even after Detroit's city council passed a resolution urging him to do so last week. [T]
A BITTER SWEET SURRENDER
Kilpatrick and Beatty surrendered to Wayne County authorities Monday afternoon for booking. If found guilty of the perjury charges, he could face a maximum of 15 years in prison.[t]
PERSONAL BOND GETS PERSONAL BONDS
Not guilty pleas were entered for both. They were released on personal bonds and are expected to appear at a June 9 preliminary examination that will determine if they will face trial in Wayne County Circuit Court.[g]
A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS
The charges stem from a lawsuit filed by two former police officers who won a jury verdict last year. They said they were fired for investigating claims that the mayor used his security unit to cover up extramarital affairs.[g]
FATALLY BASED DISCRIMINATION SHOWS AN INSTITUTIONAL BIAS AGAINST FAT MEN
Kilpatrick has also tried to dismiss the charges as racially motivated. But prosecutor Worthy is also African American[T] Mabey the charges are motivated because he is FAT. A fatally based discrimination.[trb]
I THOUGHT ONLY KIDS DID THAT STUFF- PAGERS AND TEXTING!
Kilpatrick had said he would challenge the verdict, but prosecutors allege that a multimillion-dollar settlement was reached after the officers' attorney showed the mayor's lawyers references to the text messages, which had been left on Beatty's city-issued pager. [g]
A REAL NEWSPAPER OR A DETROIT HATE MONGER?
The Detroit Free Press published excerpts of the messages in January, prompting an investigation that led to charges against Kilpatrick and Beatty on Monday.[g]
WEBB IS A SERIOUS GUY
Kilpatrick's lawyer Dan Webb is a former U.S. attorney known for his three-hour cross-examination of former President Ronald Reagan in the Iran-Contra scandal. Webb won a conviction, later reversed, against Admiral John Poindexter on charges linked to the scandal. [g]
Webb also was the chief defense attorney in the corruption trial of former Illinois Gov. George Ryan, who is now in prison. [g]
BRING IN THE FEDERALLIES
Webb says the release of the text messages violates federal law. [g]
``Under the Stored Communications Act they absolutely should not have been produced in civil litigation,'' Webb said Monday. ``Because of that, everyone who sees them is clearly tainted because the initial production was illegal.'' [g]
BROTHERS UNITED
Miami criminal defense lawyer Milton Hirsch said Webb's effort to bring the 1986 act into play is a good move. [g]
``He's a very fine lawyer,'' said Hirsch, who specializes in defending public corruption cases. ``There is very little law on this, but I think it's a motion worth filing. It could make good law and could establish an important point.'' [g]
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF INTIMATE?
Kilpatrick and Beatty denied having an intimate relationship when they testified in the police officers' lawsuit. [g]
IS CASUAL SEX ROMATIC?
``Mayor Kilpatrick, during 2002 and 2003, were you romantically involved with Christine Beatty?'' asked Mike Stefani, who represented the police officers. [g]
Kilpatrick's response: ``No.'' [g]
Beatty said ``no'' and rolled her eyes when asked if she and the mayor were ``either romantically or intimately involved'' during the period covered by the case. [g]
Text messages published by the Free Press told a different story. [g]
A METAPHYSICAL TYPE OF ATTRACTION
``I'm madly in love with you,'' Kilpatrick wrote on Oct. 3, 2002. [g]
``I hope you feel that way for a long time,'' Beatty replied. ``In case you haven't noticed, I am madly in love with you, too!'' [g]
I HAVE SINNED IN MY MIND? WAS THAT SWAGGART OR CARTER?
On Oct. 16, 2002, Kilpatrick wrote Beatty: ``I've been dreaming all day about having you all to myself for 3 days. Relaxing, laughing, talking, sleeping and making love.'' [g]
YOU CANNOT TRUST A TRYST
The messages also included dialogue about where to meet and how to conceal their trysts. Hirsch, however, said the messages may not be enough to prove perjury. [g]
THEY DID NOT SAY WHAT?
``The world is full of people who are in the habit of exchanging salacious phone calls, e-mails and text messages,'' he said. ``It doesn't mean they are having an actual relationship. Did they say (under oath) they didn't have physical sex, or have no personal relationship or interaction, at all? [g]
``If the witnesses testified 'we have nothing but a business relationship, we scarcely even talk about anything besides business matters,' that's a different matter,'' Hirsch said. [g]
BYE BYE BABY GOODBYE
Sex is not the only issue surrounding the text messages. The prosecutor's office filed an investigative report Tuesday that included an excerpt of a text message from Kilpatrick asking members of his staff for help in explaining the departure of former Deputy Chief Gary Brown, one of the former officers who sued. [g]
On June 24, 2003, he wrote: ``We must answer the question? Why was Gary Brown fired. It will be asked, I need short, powerful answer ... I just need a good answer. Whatever it might be.'' [g]
UN COLA
During the whistle-blower suit, Kilpatrick said Brown was ``un-appointed.'' [g]
``He was not fired,'' he testified. [g]
IS A HORMONE DRIVEN STATEMENT WILLFUL?
Perjury, under Michigan law, is defined as ``willfully'' swearing falsely while under oath and is punishable by up to 15 years in prison. [g]
CONTEMPT CHARGES PENDING
Worthy would not elaborate but said some of her concerns may be revealed at a court hearing Friday at which a judge has been asked to consider finding two city officials in contempt of court. She would not specify which records she has been unable to obtain from the city. Frustration in obtaining certain records has caused county prosecutors in recent weeks to take action in the Michigan Court of Appeals and the Michigan Supreme Court and to launch contempt proceedings against Detroit Corporation Counsel John E. Johnson and Deputy Human Resources Director Patricia Peoples. [d]
BUSH DID NOT PARDON DETROITS MAYOR?
DETROITS MAYOR SHOULD ASK FOR A PARDON BUSH IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS!
On the new friendS list for George W. Bush were:
• William L. Baker of Spokane, Wash., who was sentenced in 1980 to two years prison for falsifying records.
• George Francis Bauckham of Oak Ridge, N.J., who received five years probation in 1958 for the unlawfully detention or delay of the mail by a postal employee.
• Kenneth Charles Britt of White City, Kan., who was sentenced to three years probation in 1998 for conspiracy to violate fish and wildlife laws.
• William Bruce Butt of London, Ky., who received three years probation in 1990 for bank embezzlement.
• Mariano Garza Caballero of Brownsville, Texas, who was sentenced in 1984 to 34 days in prison and four years probation for dealing in firearms without a license.
• Anthony C. Foglio of Santee, Calif., who was sentenced to three years probation in 1996 for distributing marijuana. He is also known as Tony Foley.
• Marvin Robert Foster of Boca Raton, Fla., who was sentenced to a year of probation in 1968 for making a false statement in connection with a Federal Housing Administration loan.
• Carl Harry Hachmeister of Denton, Texas, who was sentenced to three years probation in 1985 for conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud.
• William Marcus McDonald of Wetumpka, Ala., who was sentenced two four years confinement with hard labor by an Air Force court-martial in 1984 for cocaine and marijuana charges. His pay was docked, his rank was reduced and he was given a discharge for bad conduct.
• Robert Michael Milroy of Cinnaminson, N.J., who was sentenced to 7 1/2 years prison in 1975 for heroin importation.
• Jerry Lynn Moldenhauer and Thomas Donald Moldenhauer of Colorado Springs, Colo., who each received three years probation in 1994 for selling migratory bird parts in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act.
• Richard James Putney of Woodbridge, Va., who received one year of probation in 1996 for aiding and abetting the escape of a prisoner.
• Timothy Alfred Thone of Woodbury, Minn., who was sentenced in 1987 to two years probation for making a false statement to the Department of Housing and Urban Development to obtain a mortgage.
• Lonnie Edward Two Eagle Sr. of Parmelee, S.D., who was sentenced to two years probation in 1976 for misdemeanor simple assault on an Indian reservation.
Bush also commuted the sentence of Patricia Beckford of Portsmouth, Va., who since 1992 has been serving a 23-year prison sentence for conspiracy to distribute more than 50 grams of crack cocaine. Bush left intact a five-year term of probation.[Y]
OH....GOOD CALL SUPREME COURT
A 2004 Michigan Supreme Court ruling could help prosecutors' case. Reversing more than 150 years of precedent, the court said prosecutors don't have to prove that a lie was material to a case.[g]
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The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7411497
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Time Magazine
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1725259,00.html?imw=Y
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BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7313516.stm
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The Detroit News
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080325/METRO/803250442/1361
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Yahoo News
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_go_pr_wh/presidential_pardons
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DAN KILDEE ON DEMOCRATIC DELEGATE SELECTION!
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GOOD MORNING FLINT! BY Terry Bankert 3/27/08
You are invited to join me at Face Book http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry_Bankert/645845362 ___________________________
Full article at http://goodmorningflint.blogspot.com/
SUMMARY ON Flint Talk
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SPECIAL GUEST-WFLT 1420 AM 9 AM 3/29/08- PROGRAM “ KNOW THE LAW”
On Saturday 3/29/08 from 9:am until 9:30 am Daniel Kildee Genesee County Treasure will be my guest on my radio program “ Know the Law” WFLT 1420 am radio. This is a call in program and you may ask Mr. Kildee question on the air by calling 810-239-5733.
posted to Flint Talk
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We will be talking about the Michigan Democratic Delegate selection process.
Danile Kildee is General Chairperson on the 5th Congressional District Democratic Party and he is responsible for organizing the local Delegate Selection Convention.
4/19/08
10 Am Saturday
9:15 registration
UAW Local 599 , 812 Leith ST, Flint MI 48505.
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Daniel T. Kildee was elected Genesee County Treasurer in November 1996, and took office on January 1, 1997. Mr. Kildee currently serves as Chairman of the Fifth Congressional District Democratic Party. Before his election as Treasurer, Mr. Kildee served for 12 years as a Genesee County Commissioner, including 5 years as Chairman of the Board of Commissioners.
Mr. Kildee, 46, is a lifelong resident of the Genesee County, and in 1977 became the one of the youngest people ever elected to public office in the nation when he was elected to the Flint Board of Education at age 18. He is an honors graduate of Flint Northern High School, and attended Mott Community College and the University of Michigan-Flint. Kildee was employed for 10 years as a member of the staff of the Donald M. Whaley Children's Center, a residential treatment facility for emotionally disturbed children, and now serves on the Board of Directors of Whaley. He was part-time instructor in the corporate services division of Baker College of Flint from 1992-1998. He and his wife Jennifer have three children: Ryan, age 26, a graduate of Michigan Technological University, and works in the private sector in El Paso, Texas; Kenneth, age 14; and Katy, age 12.
Kildee initiated an effort to use Michigan’s new tax foreclosure law as a tool for community development and neighborhood stabilization. He founded the Genesee Land Bank - Michigan’s first land bank - and serves as its Chairman and Chief Executive Officer.
Kildee is President of the Genesee Institute, a research and training institute focusing on Smart Growth, urban land reform, and land banking.
In 2003 Governor Granholm and legislative leaders appointed Kildee to the Michigan Land Use Leadership Council, which made 160 recommendations to deal with urban sprawl and other land use issues. In 2005 Governor Granholm appointed Kildee as one of the initial directors of the Michigan Land Bank Fast Track Authority, the nation’s first statewide Land Bank.
Kildee is a member of the Michigan Economic and Environmental Roundtable, is Co-chair of the Michigan Redevelopment Readiness Advisory Council, and serves on the Board of Directors of the Land Information Access Association and the Board of Directors of Automation Alley, southeastern Michigan’s regional technology cluster designed to attract technology based industry to the region. He is also on the Advisory Board for the National Vacant Properties Campaign. Kildee recently accepted a month-long Fellowship at the Harvard University Kennedy School of Government.
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LEE GONZALES, BEST MAN FOR THE JOB!
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GOOD MORNING FLINT! BY Terry Bankert 3/28/08 early edition
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I am going to the fundraiser of my friend tonite 3/27/08 at the White Horse about 6 pm. I thought I would share some information about him
Lee Gonzales
see his web site
http://049.housedems.com/
Lee is a Democratic Party member of the Michigan State House of Representatives.
He represents the 49th District, which is located in Genesee County and includes part of the city of Flint. He is one of only two Hispanic members of the Michigan House, along with Rep. John Espinoza.
Gonzales received his bachelor’s degree in urban studies and urban administration and a master’s of public administration from the
University of Michigan-Flint. He completed the Senior Executive Program at Harvard University.
He is a member of the Hispanic Caucus of Genesee County, which he formerly chaired.
Political career
For seven years Gonzales was the assistant Treasurer for Genessee County. Gonzales served as Genesee County’s development director from 1992-1996. During this time he was responsible for writing the grant application resulting in the $25 million Flint/Genesee Job Corps Center. He worked as a local Government Liaison for Governor James Blanchard and as an aide to Rep. Dale Kildee. He was elected to the state House in 2004 and re-elected in 2006. He is the Chairman of the House Transportation Sub-Committee.
Personal
Gonzales and his wife Brenda have been married for 33 years. They have three children and one grandson.
Office Address
N0898 House Office Building
1. Mailing Address
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909-7514
Phone: (517) 373-7515
Fax: (517) 373-5817
Toll-Free
(800) 354-6849
Email
leegonzales@house.mi.gov
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Democrats in a frying pan and ,DAN KILDEE ON DEMOCRATIC DELEGATE SELECTION!
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SPECIAL GUEST-WFLT 1420 AM 9 AM 3/29/08- PROGRAM “ KNOW THE LAW”
On Saturday 3/29/08 from 9:am until 9:30 am Daniel Kildee Genesee County Treasure will be my guest on my radio program “ Know the Law” WFLT 1420 am radio. This is a call in program and you may ask Mr. Kildee question on the air by calling 810-239-5733.
We will be talking about the Michigan Democratic Delegate selection process.
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Daniel Kildee is General Chairperson on the 5th Congressional District Democratic Party and he is responsible for organizing the local Delegate Selection Convention.
4/19/08
10 Am Saturday
9:15 registration
UAW Local 599 , 812 Leith ST, Flint MI 48505.
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Daniel T. Kildee was elected Genesee County Treasurer in November 1996, and took office on January 1, 1997. Mr. Kildee currently serves as Chairman of the Fifth Congressional District Democratic Party. Before his election as Treasurer, Mr. Kildee served for 12 years as a Genesee County Commissioner, including 5 years as Chairman of the Board of Commissioners.
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WHY IS THE GUY WHO LOST MICHGAN FOR US TALKING?
Blanchard: DNC 'flirting with a McCain victory'[fp]
PEOPLE CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!
Democratic National Committee chair Howard Dean has finally recognized that the sparring between Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and their backers has grown a tad disruptive. [n]
BLANCHARD A KNOW CLINTON LACKEY COMES TO HER NEEDED DEFENSE AND HER INTENT TO KEEP FIGHTING A LOST CAUSE.
Former Gov. James Blanchard blamed the Democratic National Committee’s rigid rules for the party’s presidential deadlock, saying its refusal to seat Michigan and Florida delegates at the national convention could hand Republicans the White House.[fp]
CLINTONS ONLY HOPE IS THAT HER ELITE FRIENDS WILL STOMP ON THE COMMON DEMOCRATS
Clinton said the rules applying to super delegates having a right and responsibility to pick the best candidate for president also applies to the regularly elected delegates—those who are pledged to support a particular candidate for nomination. She indicated that delegates elected to support Obama, who outnumber those elected to back Clinton, could end up supporting her based on the outcome of upcoming state contests.[BS]
BILL JUST WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT AGAIN
Just in case you were wondering what Hillary Clinton's No. 1 fan thinks of recent calls for her to drop out of the race for the Democratic nomination, Bill Clinton has three words for you: "Bunch of Bull." [MS]
"All these people tell you, 'Aw, we oughta shut this thing down now; the Democrats are so Divided,'" Clinton said at a campaign event here. "That’s a bunch of bull." [MS]
BLANCHARD WAS PRESENT WHEN THESE RULES WERE ADOPTED AND NOR IS MCCAIN FEAR MONGERING
“The national Democratic Party is flirting with a McCain victory if someone doesn’t step in and make sure Michigan voters’ voices are heard,” said Blanchard, co-chairman of Hillary Clinton’s Michigan campaign.[fp]
MARK BREWER MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC CHAIRPERSON DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULES, HE NEEDS TO GO!
The national party won’t recognize delegates from Michigan’s Jan. 15 primary because it was held too early, in violation of party rules. But there’s been no agreement on holding a second primary or Democratic caucus that would be recognized by the natinoal party.[fp]
Michigan and Florida lost their convention nominating delegates when their party primaries were moved up in advance of the Feb. 5 “Super Tuesday” contests. Clinton “won” in both states but efforts between the camps of Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois to try to reach agreement with Democratic officials in both states on how to make their delegations count at the national convention in Denver have come to naught.[BS]
BLANCHARD, LEVIN,THE MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE DNC AND THE MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE NEED TO BE SANCTIONED FOR THE DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF 500,000 MICHIGAN DEMOCRATS!
“They’re treating the rules like the U.S. Constitution or the 10 Commandments. They’ve lost their way,” Blanchard said of the DNC. He added, “I do think the presidential election process is broken. It’s broken, we have a heck of a mess.” [fp]
BLANCHARD AND HIS BUDDIES LEVIN,BREWER ET AL SHOULD PAY FOR IT!
Blanchard, during a taping of Michigan public television’s “Off the Record” this morning, said the state Legislature should reconsider holding another Democratic primary when it returns from its spring break. [fp]
IT’S A NO BRAINER THAT THE MICHGIAN DEMOICRATIC LEADERSHIP SHOULD HAVE FOLLOWED THE RUILES.
“I think, if you’re a legislator, it’s an absolute no-brainer to say, ‘Let the voters decide,’” he said. “The issue is not what’s good for Hillary or good for Obama, it’s what’s good for the voters of Michigan.” [fp]
WHY IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOW A PARTY LED MY THESE ELITE SUPER DELEGATES?
Blanchard also said he likes a proposal for a separate, national convention of Democratic superdelegates in June to break a deadlock and decide whether Clinton or Barack Obama is the nominee, before the Democratic National Convention in August.[fp]
Clinton maintained that the nearly 800 top party officials and members of Congress who make up the superdelegates to the national convention will ultimately decide the nominee since neither the New York senator nor Obama will have crossed the 2,024 delegate threshold needed to sew up the nomination.[BS]
“I think that’s a very important fact: Neither one of us can be nominated without super delegates and super delegates should exercise their right and their responsibility to determine who they think would be the best president and who would be the best nominee to defeat John McCain in the fall,” she said. “That’s the way our process is set up. That’s the way it will operate.”[BS]
I THINK THE SUPER DELEAGTES SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE National Democratic Convention.[trb]
B.S., THE DEMOCRATIC VOTER IS LOVING THIS. A REAL CONVENTION WHERE THE OUT COME IS NOT DICTATED BY A BUNCH IF INBREAD ELITES. GREAT STUFF WE WILL ALL WATCH!
Unless it’s resolved, he said, the ultimate nominee will be severely weakened heading into Labor Day, the unofficial kickoff of the general election campaign. [fp]
EVEN CLINTON DISAGREES WITH HER LAP DOG BLANCHARD
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said party leaders are free to voice their feelings about the prolonged race for the nomination but she has no intention to drop her bid and she disagrees that it will take a toll on the eventual nominee.[BS]
Clinton disagreed with those who have said the continued contest could end up tearing the Democratic Party apart and said it will “strengthen our eventual nominee.”[BS]
‘I just think this spirited exciting contest is a real plus for us and I just don’t have the worries that some people either are talking about or feeling. I think we’ll go on until it’s clear who the nominee is,” she said.[BS]
WHO THE HADIES IS BLANCHARD TO PRE JUDGE THE GREAT MAYOR OF DEETROIT!
On Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, Blanchard said he agrees with Gov. Jennifer Granholm to defer a decision to boot Kilpatirick from office until his criminal case is decided. He said if Kilpatrick is convicted of a felony, he will be forced to resign anyway.
THEN WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS?
Blanchard said if Granholm attempted to oust the mayor now, he would challenge her in court – and probably win. [fp]
BUT FOR BLANCHARDS INEPTNESS ENGLER WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN GOVERNOR , NOW HE IS GIVING DIRECTIONS?
“And that,” Blanchard said, “would weaken the governor and continue to add to the problem and do nothing for economic development,” Blanchard said. “What the governor is doing and should do is to meet with business leaders and continue plans to diversify the economy, take a look at alternative energy research and not get mired in this, which is going to be in the courts anyway and resolved there.”[fp]
BLANCHARD AND CLINTON TWO PEAS IN A POD
Does Hillary really believe Indiana will support a LIAR like her?[BS]
NOW A WORD FROM THE HILLARY AND JIMMY SPONSOR
The former president went on to note that he did not earn enough delegates to clinch the 1992 nomination until June of that year, around the same time that the final primary votes will be cast this year. [MS]
He also argued, as he often does, against the "disenfranchisement" of voters in Michigan and Florida. "She wants you to have your say," he added. [MS]
Notably, Clinton described the remaining primaries as contests for the popular vote (not for delegates.) "Now we’re going to have to go all the way through to the end to see who has the most popular votes," he said. "And that’s good."[MS]
BILL GET A GRIP
"You do not want to demoralize the base of the Democratic Party by having the Democrats attack each other," Dean told the Associated Press. "Let the media and the Republicans and the talking heads on cable television attack and carry on, fulminate at the mouth. The supporters should keep their mouths shut about this stuff on both sides because that is harmful to the potential victory of a Democrat."[N]
Ya think?[N]
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Freep.com
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080328/NEWS06/80328018/1008/news06
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Comments of Terry Bankert along with unattributed CAP headlines
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Baltimore Sun
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/clinton_not_quitting_i_like_lo.html
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MSNBC
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/28/834235.aspx
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The Nation
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080328/cm_thenation/45303979
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Brewer should resign post!!!!!
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Great letter Ryan
Letter To The Editor
http://www.mlive.com/news/flintjournal/index.ssf?/base/news-11/1206850978315820.xml&coll=5
FLINT
THE FLINT JOURNAL FIRST EDITIONSunday, March 30, 2008
Journal Reader
I am calling for Mark Brewer to resign as chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party. He and the central committee got us into this mess and need to do us a favor and resign. This is only hurting us more and more, and I feel like my vote is being disenfranchised.
The vote of the people cannot stand because Brewer and a committee violated the national party rules and our Michigan delegates will not be seated.
Ryan M. Eashoo
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I agree with this position, see links below. [Terry Bankert] DO you?
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Here is what you can do:
Call ,
write,email,
letter to editor, or show up in the office of any democratic party leasder or elected offical and
protest the Michgigan Democratic Party
Disenfranshisement of 500,000 Michigan voters
and the need for the party to Get it Right!
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Party Fears Tight Obama-Clinton Finish
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Mar 29, 3:20 PM (ET)
By CHARLES BABINGTON
WASHINGTON (AP) - For all their delight in soaring voter registration and strong poll numbers, some Democrats fear the contest between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton might have a nightmarish end, which could wreck a promising election year.
The chief worry is that Clinton may carry her recent winning streak into Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina and other states, leaving her with unquestioned momentum but fewer pledged delegates than Obama. Party leaders then would face a wrenching choice: Steer the nomination to a fading Obama, even as signs suggested Clinton could be the stronger candidate in November; or go with the surging Clinton and risk infuriating Obama's supporters, especially blacks, the Democratic Party's most loyal base.
Some anxious Democrats want party elders to step in now to generate more "superdelegate" support for Obama, effectively choking off Clinton's hopes before she can bolster them further. But many say that is unlikely, and they pray the final 10 contests will make the ultimate choice fairly obvious, not excruciating.
Barring a complete meltdown by Obama, Clinton has almost no chance of surpassing his number of pledged delegates, even if she scores upset wins in states such as Oregon, which votes May 20. But such victories would encourage her to keep criticizing Obama - her only hope for the nomination - and thus heighten doubts about Obama's ability to defeat Republican Sen. John McCain in the fall.
That scenario troubles many Democrats, especially those who feel Obama's nomination is all but inevitable.
"This is going to give Republicans a chance to try to destroy everything we've been trying to work for for eight years," said Ken Foxworth, a Democratic National Committee member from Minnesota and superdelegate who backs Obama.
Superdelegates are party officials, including members of Congress, who can back any candidate they wish. With neither Obama nor Clinton able to secure the nomination with the pledged delegates they win in primaries and caucuses, the superdelegates ultimately will decide the outcome.
Many undeclared superdelegates express confidence that all will be well. Democratic voters will unite in the fall, they say, and the injuries that Obama and Clinton inflict on each other this spring will heal.
Privately, however, some party insiders worry that these superdelegates may be blithely marching toward a treacherous crossroad, where they will have to choose between a deeply wounded Obama and a soaring Clinton whose success was built on tearing down the party's front-runner in terms of delegates.
A senior Democratic Senate aide, who would speak only on background because most members of Congress bar their staff members from being quoted by name, called it a nightmare that's getting worse.
The Democrats' optimism of February has been replaced by fear, this aide said, referring to the widely held view last month that Obama was coasting to the nomination after winning 11 straight contests. Clinton halted the skid in Texas and Ohio on March 4 and is favored to win the Pennsylvania primary on April 22.
If the New York senator also tops Obama in Indiana and North Carolina on May 6, West Virginia a week later, and Kentucky and/or Oregon on May 20, her supporters will argue that the dynamic has sharply changed in ways party leaders cannot ignore. Obama is no longer the sure-footed campaigner who piled up wins and delegates in February, they will say, and the superdelegates' obligation to the party is to nominate the sprinting Clinton, even if it angers Obama backers.
Of course, Obama could practically extinguish Clinton's final hopes by winning one or more of those states. Many Democrats believe he will, suggesting Clinton's continued campaign is a hopeless, albeit potentially harmful, endeavor.
Obama's nomination is "a foregone conclusion," Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., told National Journal. Dodd endorsed Obama after trying for the nomination himself.
He's ahead of Clinton in delegates, popular votes, states won and fundraising. Obama seems nearly certain to finish the primary season far ahead of Clinton financially. At the end of February his campaign had $30 million on hand, while Clinton's had only $3 million more in cash than in debts.
Some Obama supporters question Clinton's motives: They suggest she is counting on a stunning gaffe or shocking revelation to cripple Obama and hand her the nomination. Others float a more sinister possibility, which has found its way into mainstream news accounts: Clinton hopes to damage Obama so severely that he loses to McCain this fall, clearing her path to challenge McCain in 2012, when he will be 75.
Clinton scoffs at such suggestions, and calls on voters to support whomever is the Democratic nominee in November.
Whatever her motives, many Democrats fear that Clinton's continued criticisms can only hurt the man they see as their all-but-certain nominee. They point to a recent Gallup poll, in which 28 percent of Clinton's Democratic supporters said they would vote for McCain if Obama is the party's nominee. Nineteen percent of Obama's supporters said they would vote for McCain if Clinton gets the nod.
Faced with such disturbing trends, some Democrats want party elders either to persuade Clinton to drop out, or to orchestrate enough superdelegate endorsements of Obama to make her defeat inevitable. But high-profile Democrats, including former president Jimmy Carter, former vice president Al Gore, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, have refrained from such moves so far.
"My job is to make sure the person who loses feels like they have been treated fairly so that their supporters will support the winner," Dean told The Associated Press.
Indeed, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi drew objections from Clinton backers when she approached the issue by saying she shared Obama's view that superdelegates should be guided by the vote for pledged delegates.
This week, one of Obama's prominent supporters, Sen. Patrick Leahy took the next step. The Vermont Democrat who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee said Clinton can't win enough delegates and should drop out and support Obama.
Ferrel Guillory, director of the Program on Southern Politics, Media, and Public Life at the University of North Carolina, said it's probably asking too much of Dean and others to step in. In an era of sharply contested primaries and largely meaningless nominating conventions, he said "we don't have any power brokers any more" who could somehow negotiate a resolution.
Pat Waak, chairwoman of the Colorado Democratic Party, said the worriers should relax.
"I actually think it's good for the party to get through this process," she said. "It gives everybody a chance to be part of it," she said, noting that Democratic voter registration is soaring in many states.
In Pennsylvania, Democrats have registered a staggering 161,000 new voters since last fall, pushing their numbers over 4 million for the first time. In Oregon, nearly 10,000 voters have refiled as Democrats in the last seven weeks.
Waak added, however: "The concern I have is the kind of level of attack that has come up" between Obama and Clinton. "I don't think that is good for the party."
Superdelegates will have to choose this summer, Waak said, and it will be easy if Obama can significantly increase his lead in delegates, popular votes and states won. On the other hand, she said, "the narrower the margin and the less conclusive it is, the harder it becomes."
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McCain and a final repudiation of the Bush doctrine is the real target as Democrats skirmish
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McCain and a final repudiation of the Bush doctrine is the real target as Democrats skirmish for the top of the ticket. The American public is not fooled. The importance of removing republicans from public office is of such importance that we want a tried and tested warrior to come out of our Democratic National Convention to take on the republicans and their Bush clone John McCain.[trb]
Senator Joe Lieberman blasted the Democratic Party yesterday as protectionist, isolationist, and hyper partisan.[b]
Judas, Benedict Arnold, spineless, fraud are my thoughts when the word Liberman is mentioned.[trb]
The message: The once noble Democratic Party has been taken over by peaceniks and radicals, who are weakening the country and threatening our security. Nearly two years after being rejected by his lifelong party in the Connecticut primary, it appears that Lieberman has only begun his effort to exact revenge. [t]
It’s the republican that have cost us 4,000 American lives and the devastation of our economy.[trb]
Speaking on ABC's "This Week," Lieberman, Independent of Connecticut, said it is not the same party that made him its vice presidential candidate in 2000.[b] It is the same party that threw him out of the democratic party by electoral defeat in a partisan Senatorial primary.[trb]
This is Lieberman making a Republican general election argument, and it is notable for its scope. He is not just condemning his party's position on Iraq, or praising McCain, his long-time friend. He is condemning in sweeping language the very core identity of the Democratic Party as weak and extremist. This is a tried and true Republican theme, which traditionally has more to do with scaring independent voters than with actual reasoned debate of the issues.[t]
"It's not the Bill Clinton-Al Gore party, which was strong internationalists, strong on defense, pro-trade, pro-reform in our domestic government," he [McCain] said. "It's been effectively taken over by a small group on the left of the party that is protectionist, isolationist, and very, very hyperpartisan. So it pains me."[b]
Wrong, Clinton and Obama are clearly middle of the road.[trb]
Lieberman, who won reelection to the Senate as an independent after losing the 2006 Connecticut Democratic primary, still caucuses with Democrats. But he has endorsed Republican John McCain's presidential bid, and said yesterday that McCain reflects the legacy of John F. Kennedy.[b]
I knew JFK and McCain is no JFK. And Liberman is not a leader, just a sold out has been.[trb]
Lieberman joins his fellow neoconservatives in pushing for a continuation of the Bush Doctrine.[t]
McCain is more... more... more of the catastrophic Bush doctrine:[t]
BUSHIES RALLY AROUND LIBERMAN
"Randy Scheunemann is McCain's new defense and foreign policy adviser. He is a former adviser to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. He was President of the pre-war Committee for the Liberation of Iraq to oust Saddam Hussein.[t]
"Steve Schmidt, is McCain's high powered new political strategist. He worked on Bush's 2004 campaign and was Bush's attack dog whenever former Presidential candidate John Kerry criticized the Iraq War policy. They join other neocons on McCain's campaign like former CIA director James Woolsey.[t]
"[James] Woolsey helped direct US attention toward Iraq after 9/11 when on the next day he falsely accused the Iraqi Government of having a role in it.[t]
"Joining Scheunemann, a veteran neoconservative strategist and one of the chief architects of the Iraq War, are a panoply of like-minded neocons who've gathered to advise McCain, including Bill Kristol, Robert Kagan, Max Boot, Gary Schmitt and Maj. Ralph Peters."[t]
MCCAIN IS NOT A REFORMER...HE IS A BUSH CLONE.
McCain, he said, is "a reformer, somebody who understands ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country and remembers the other part of the Kennedy inaugural, which said that we will bear any burden, pay any price to assure the survival and sustenance of liberty. That's John McCain."[b]
Lieberman says he believes McCain will be able to win he support of a majority of independents and a lot of moderate Democrats. [n]
Lieberman has told reporters that he will speak at the Republican National Convention if McCain asks, but has ruled out sharing the 2008GOP ticket with McCain. [n]
LIBERMAN WANTS , LIKE BUSH AND MCCAIN, TO START ANOTHER WAR IN IRAN.
Lieberman also blasted Senator Barack Obama for voting against a resolution to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guards as a terrorist group and gave Clinton credit for supporting it. [b]
I'm not sure that McCain could come up with a less effective advocate that Lieberman.
Lieberman's supporters are The Corner and their ilk. As a Democrat I hope he is out campaigning everyday for McCain.[t]
"Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) doesn't think Gen. Petraeus has enough war on his hands. The senator (changing the subject from Iraq with "I want to go to Iran...") asked Petraeus if he wanted "the authority" from Congress to "pursue the Qods forces into Iranian territory." Petraeus, for some reason, politely declined to start a third contemporaneous U.S. war."[t]
A staunch supporter of the Iraq war, Lieberman recently traveled to Baghdad with McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina. Though he commended Hillary Clinton for her vote on declaring the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist group, he slammed both Democratic presidential candidates on their foreign policy positions.[n]
Lieberman has been drinking the neocon koolaid for several years now. Even his hometown paper has disavowed Neocon Joe[t]
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Boston.com
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/31/independent_lieberman_calls_democratic_party_hyperpartisan/
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Boston Herald
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/general/view.bg?articleid=1084001&srvc=rss
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Newsday
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/connecticut/ny-bc-ct--lieberman0330mar30,0,4037016.story
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Time
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/03/say_it_aint_so_joe.html
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OBAMA THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!
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Obama Is Moving to Down-to-Earth Oratory for Working People [n]
A POLITICAL ACT IS A RESOURCE ALLOCATION, POLITICS IS THE PROCESS TO ACHIEVE THE ABILITY TO CAUSE POLITICAL ACTS.
OBAMA UNDERSTANDS THAT COMMUNICATION IS THE HEART OF POLITICS
Its time for Flint to jump on th Obama bandwagon. At last a politician who we can believe in. What a fresh breeze![trb]
Obama Event At Penn State Draws 20,000
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that Sen. Barack Obama headlined a massive rally at Penn State yesterday, where he "offered praise for the public service" of Sens. John McCain and Hillary Clinton "but described both as mired in the partisanship of Washington. 'Her basic argument is we just need to change political parties,' Mr. Obama said" of Clinton, adding, "Just because we have a Democrat in the White House doesn't mean that things are going to change." The AP reports from this morning that the rally drew "20,000 to 22,000" people, who came out in the cold for the event.[U]
Reflect on the last time you recall a US political leader that could draw a crowd of 20,000![trb]
THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERS RECOGNIZE GOOD POLITICS
The latest Gallup poll is like manna from heaven for Barack Obama it so neatly backs up two key arguments he and his supporters are making -- that he is the stronger candidate for the fall, and that the marathon nomination fight is hurting the party.[B]
MDP AND DNC get your house in order or step aside and let someone else do it...right.[trb]
OBAMA COMMUNICATION EXCELLENCE [n]
The Speech is his finely polished sword, a transcendent weapon. Seen and heard on a thousand YouTube postings, Senator Barack Obama’s speeches have made a happening of that hoariest of campaign forms, the stump speech. [n]
TIMING AND KNOWING YOUR CROWD IS A HIGH SKILL
But Mr. Obama sheaths that sword more often now. He is grounding his lofty rhetoric in the more prosaic language of white-working-class discontent, adjusting it to the less welcoming terrain of Pennsylvania. His preferred communication now is the town-hall-style meeting.[n]
A PLACE LOWER ON THE SCALE THAN MY HOME FLINT, PITY THEM....
So in Johnstown, a small, economically depressed city tucked in a valley hard by the Little Conemaugh River, Mr. Obama on Saturday spoke to the gritty reality of a city that ranks dead last on the Census Bureau’s list of places likely to attract American workers. His traveling companion, Senator Bob Casey, Democrat of Pennsylvania, introduced the candidate as an “underdog fighter for an underdog state.”[n]
THE RISE OF THE UNDERDOG.....
Mr. Obama, a quicksilver political student, picked up that cue. He often mentions his background as a community organizer but in passing, a parenthetical. Not this time. “I got into public service as an organizer,” Mr. Obama told these 1,200 mostly white Pennsylvanians in a local high school gymnasium. “There were a group of churches, mostly Catholic parishes, and they hired me for $12,000 plus car fare.”[n]
WRESTLE MANIA
Throughout the Democratic primary race, Barack Obama has cast himself as an underdog trying to wrest the nomination from the grip of the party establishment, which he contends is partial to rival Hillary Rodham Clinton.[h]
ACCOUNTABILITY
That detail drew knowing chuckles in a town where the median income hovers at just over $20,000. “So I got myself believing that the most important thing is not to be an elected official but to hold them accountable.”[n]
TOASTED BREAD, BUTTER , A LITTLE JAM...
Then, echoing Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s focus on bread-and-butter concerns, Mr. Obama went on to talk about the price of gas and to offer the precise amount of his health care premium and to explain exactly what he would do about the foreclosure rate and Big Oil and Big Energy and how he would stop companies from moving to China. [n]
AND A DOLLOP OF PEANUT BUTTER! IT GETS NO BETTER....
On Monday, he added a dollop of denunciation of corporate salaries at Countrywide, a company at the center of the subprime loan implosion. “So they get a $19 million bonus while other folks are losing their homes,” he said in Lancaster. “What’s wrong with this picture?”[n]
CONVENTIONAL WISDOM GOT US HERE..NEW STUFF GETS US OUT!
But it is Obama, a first-term Illinois senator running against the conventions of Washington, who is increasingly benefiting from institutional support — bolstering his campaign during a rough month when he lost two key primaries and faced questions about his spiritual mentor.[h]
PLAIN... SPOKEN HERE...
Mr. Obama’s effort to master a plain-spoken and blunt language that extends back centuries in Pennsylvania is accompanied by no small stakes. Voters here, as in neighboring Ohio, where Mr. Obama lost the white and aging blue-collar vote, tend to elect politicians whose language rarely soars and whose policy prescriptions come studded with detail.[n]
THE SUPER DELEGATES SHOULD BE LISTENING
Of the nearly 800 superdelegates, roughly 330 remain undecided. Because neither Obama nor Clinton can reach the 2,024-delegate threshold to win the nomination without superdelegates, that group of 330 will almost certainly determine who will represent the party against McCain.[H]
A WORKING FAMILY CULTURE, WILL THE KIDS BE FED AND IS IT SAFE TO SIT ON THE PORCH...
“The problem with talking about hope all the time is that these are not hopeful lands; Obama is talking change to people who equate change with life getting worse,” said Hank Sheinkopf, a Democratic Party consultant who has studied the political culture of these working-class states with a Talmudic intensity.[n]
Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama’s Democratic rival, has studied this argot. Her style of declamation tends toward that of the school valedictorian, but she grounds her talks in detail after detail after detail — her plan for stanching foreclosures, for tuberculosis, for tax breaks and so on and on, every program coming with a precise dollar sign attached. [n]
IF I AM STARVING I WANT A BUTCHER OR A BAKER NOT AN ACADEMIC...
A thrill these talks are not, but G. Terry Madonna, director of the Center for Politics and Public Affairs at Franklin & Marshall College, noted that politics that attended to the precarious details of life could provide comfort to the hard-pressed.[n]
GREAT IDEAS OR JUST LIVING THE WEEK OUT
“If you’re an unemployed steelworker, a former coal miner, you want to know about job training, who pays your health care,” Dr. Madonna said. “Obama’s speeches are uplifting but without much specificity, and that’s a tough sell for working people who don’t live in a world of ideas.”[n]
BOOMERS RULE
Mr. Obama grabbed a big chunk of the male working-class vote in Wisconsin, and another chunk in Virginia and in Maryland. But Pennsylvania is both blue-collar and aging — it has the third highest median age in the nation. And that has proved to be a troublesome demographic for him and a rich target for Mrs. Clinton.[n]
DO WE WANT I’ve done it or I’m gonna do it? [trb]
So, noted David Axelrod, Mr. Obama’s chief political strategist, voters can expect to hear the candidate emphasizing his organizing roots. “What we want to do is acquaint people with that dimension of his history,” Mr. Axelrod said. “A lot of this can be pleasing, but empty patter unless you can establish your authenticity.”[n]
ONE MANS BLATHER IS ANOTHER’S DISCOURSE
His challenge comes laden with complication. Pennsylvania’s culture, as the historian David Hackett Fischer noted in his book “Albion’s Seed,” is rooted in the English midlands, where Scandinavian and English left a muscular and literal imprint. These are people distrustful of rank, and finery, and high-flown words. It should come as no surprise that the word “blather” originated here.[n]
GET AN EDUCATION
Mr. Obama does not shrink from arguing that the days when high school graduates could find good-paying union job in mills and factories are gone. In Johnstown, he spoke of retrofitting shuttered steel mills into high-tech factories to build wind-powered turbines.[n]
“I don’t want to make a promise that I can bring back every job that was in Johnstown,” he said. “That’s not true.”[n]
Some in the audience applauded; others sat stolidly.[n]
YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK
“There is a romance in the Rust Belt about bringing back those old industrial jobs and the culture those jobs represented,” Mr. Sheinkopf said. “Their message to a politician is, Restore our jobs, restore our culture.”[n]
Party Leaders Migrating To Obama?[U]
While Sen. Hillary Clinton promised over the weekend to fight for the nomination all the way to the convention, the Wall Street Journal reports on its front page this morning that "slowly but steadily," a "string of Democratic Party figures is taking" Sen. Barack Obama's "side in the presidential nominating race and raising the pressure on Hillary Clinton to give up." North Carolina's seven Democratic House members "are poised to endorse...Obama as a group -- just one has so far -- before that state's May 6 primary, several Democrats say."[u]
PARTY OF THE RICH STUMBLES WHEN BLATHERING WITH WORKINGMEN AND WOMEN
(Senator John McCain, now the presumptive Republican nominee, took this same lesson in the Michigan primary, when he suggested that high-paying industrial jobs were a thing of the past. His opponent, Mitt Romney, insisted he could somehow summon that lost time, and he won handily).[n]
The candidate’s best weapon in this race just might be Senator Casey. Laconic to the core, a politician who dominates the working-class cities of Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, he seems intent on refashioning his candidate — still very much a long shot in the primary. In his telling, Mr. Obama is nearly a shot-and-a-beer guy. [n]
Our battles are his battles! What are your battles?[trb]
“We can’t just curse the darkness. We have to do our best to roll up our sleeves,” Mr. Casey said. “He’ll fight for your jobs, and your families’ jobs. Understand this: All of our battles are his battles.”[n]
.Obama stood and watched; he might as well have been taking notes.[n]
What has been striking over the past month is that Obama has racked up key endorsements during a relatively turbulent period in his candidacy. The endorsements — Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico and Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania are two of the most influential — have given him a strong underpinning after Clinton's big wins in the March 4 Ohio and Texas primaries, and amid bruising coverage of his relationship with his controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.[h]
"It's pretty clear that in the last couple weeks the Obama argument seems to have been more persuasive with those superdelegates than the Clinton argument, even in the face of the questions that were raised about Obama," said Mark Mellman, a Democratic strategist who worked on Sen. John F. Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign but is neutral this election. "Whether that's going to continue as we get new primary results from other states, that remains to be seen."[h]
Obama Opens Up Wide Lead Over Clinton In Gallup Tracking[U]
According to new data out from Gallup, Sen. Barack Obama has opened a 10 point lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton in their national tracking poll. Obama leads Clinton 52%-42%; the race had been an effective tie as recently as last Monday, when Obama held just a 46%-45% lead. In general election trial heats, Sen. John McCain tops both Democrats. McCain leads Obama 47%-44% and Clinton 48%-44%. The Democratic primary data is based on 1,228 likely Democratic voters taken March 27-29 while the trial heats are based on interviews with 4,407 registered voters taken March 25-29.[U]
"Clearly at this point, the party rank-and-file thinks Obama would present a stronger challenge to McCain in the fall than Clinton would," the pollsters said in a release. "Those attitudes could certainly change over the remainder of the campaign, but it is notable that Obama maintains a wide lead in these perceptions shortly after the Jeremiah Wright controversy knocked his campaign off stride." [B]
GEORGE BUSH A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN AND HIS CROWD HAVE DESTROYED OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. MCAIN IS A BUSH CLONE CLINTON IS OUR HISTORY.......... OBAMA IS OUR FUTURE!
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The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/01/us/politics/01obama.html?hp
[trb] Comments of Terry Bankert to include CAP headlines
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[h]
Houston Chronicle
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/5663775.html
[U]
U.S. News and World Report
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080331.htm
[B]
The Boston Globe
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/03/poll_supports_o.html
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In the name of national security and the war on terrorism should the presidents executive authority supercede our laws , international laws and human decency to allow George W. Bush to order eye gouging, genitalia cutting, slicing ,dicing and otherwise mediaeval torture of civilians that some bureaucrat has labeled at threat? Your thought? Mine is no, and he should be prosecuted.[trb]
LEAGA JUSTIFICATION, EXCUSE, WHITE LIES, TO JUSTIFY TORTURE
The Justice Department late Tuesday released a declassified 2003 memorandum long sought by congressional Democrats and other administration critics that outlines the government's legal justification for harsh interrogation techniques used by the military against captured enemy combatants outside the United States. [b]
LEGAL IMPEDIMENTS OR CIVIL RIGHTS?
The memo, written by John Yoo, then a key architect of legal policy in the wake of 9/11, dismisses several legal impediments to the use of extreme techniques. [b]
AGGRESSIVE
Yoo was long a proponent of an aggressive approach in the war against terrorism and a believer in executive branch authority. But the memo was withdrawn as formal government policy less than a year after it was written.[b]
WHEN US GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU ARE AN ENEMY YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS
In the March 14, 2003 memo, Yoo says the Constitution was not in play with regard to the interrogations because the Fifth Amendment (which provides for due process of law) and the Eighth Amendment (which prevents the government from employing cruel and usual punishment) does "not extend to alien enemy combatants held abroad.":[b]
LIMITED OBLIGATION TO NOT HARM THE BODY: PULLING FINGER NAILS STICKING KNIVES IN EYES CUTTING OFF......GET THE POINT?
The memo goes on to explain that federal criminal statutes regarding assault and other crimes against the body don't apply to authorized military interrogations overseas and that statutes that do apply to the conduct of U.S. officials abroad pertaining to war crimes and torture establish a limited obligation on the part of interrogators to refrain from bodily harm.[b]
HOW CAN TORTURE NOT BE CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT?
It also defines the United States' obligations under the United Nations Convention Against Torture and other international treaties prohibiting torture to be confined to ensuring that interrogators do not apply "cruel and unusual punishment" as defined by American constitutional law, regardless of differing international standards.[b]
IT APPLIES TO OUR SOLDIERS BUT NOT THEIRS....
And it restates the oft-repeated view held by administration officials that the Geneva Conventions, which governs the treatment of prisoners of war, does not apply to members of al Qaeda and the Taliban.[b]
WE CAN SUBJECT CIVILIANS WHO ARE NOT OF OUR CULTURE TO PHYSICAL PAIN?
The memo also reflected Yoo's belief in that the executive branch had the inherent authority during wartime to obtain information by necessarily hazardous means: [b]
Call a stranger in another country alQaeda we can then pull his eyes out and its okay,some think.[trb]
"If a government defendant were to harm an enemy combatant during an interrogation in a manner that might arguably violate a criminal prohibition, he would be doing so in order to prevent further attacks on the United States by the al Qaeda terrorist network," Yoo wrote. "In that case, we believe that he could argue that the executive branch's constitutional authority to protect the nation from attack justified his actions."[b]
It was during 2003, while the memo was operative, that guards and other military personnel committed the abuses of prisoners at Abu Ghraib in Baghdad, Iraq. The memo was withdrawn shortly thereafter, but before those abuses came to light.[b]
The memo was prepared by Yoo for William Haynes, then the Pentagon's general counsel and another key player in the administration's legal strategy. It was declassified Monday by Haynes' acting successor, Daniel Dell' Orto. Yoo is now a law professor at the University of California at Berkeley.[b]
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which has repeatedly asked the Justice Department to release the memo and others like it, had this to say Tuesday evening:[b]
It has been more than four months since I asked the White House – again – to declassify the secret Justice Department opinions on interrogation practices. Today’s declassification of one such memo is a small step forward, but in no way fulfills those requests. The administration continues to shield several memos even from members of Congress. [b]
The memo they have declassified today reflects the expansive view of executive power that has been the hallmark of this administration. It is no wonder that this memo, like the now-infamous “Bybee memo†, could not withstand scrutiny and had to be withdrawn. Like the “Bybee memo†, this memo seeks to find ways to avoid legal restrictions and accountability on torture and threatens our country’s status as a beacon of human rights around the world.[b]
Memo: Laws Didn't Apply to Interrogators See[w]
Memorandum: Part 1 (PDF)
Memorandum: Part 2 (PDF)
Our Congress has a duty to investigate the use of torture by the United States Government, punish those who have violated our laws to include George W. Bush, and change laws when they inadeuqately protect human rights. How hypocritical to protest any other governments failure to protect human rights until this duty is fulfilled.[trb]
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Baltimore Sun
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/justice_dept_releases_interrog.html
[w]
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/01/AR2008040102213.html?wpisrc=newsletter
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Nato summit: George Bush abandoned over Ukraine and Georgia[t]
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NATO Allies Oppose Bush on Georgia and Ukraine
The Nato summit could have serious repercussions for relations between Europe and Russia. US President George W. Bush believes membership can be offered to any European democracy, so offers to Ukraine and Georgia to join are perfectly correct. Even Nato Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer favours the two nations joining the organisation. Yet there are those who are against the idea. [g]
A REFLECTION
When in my post as a Municipal Ombudsman On occassion I would conference with an International Group concerned with Oversight of Police. At one I was dressed down , politely, by a Canadian Provincial Ombudsman . The topic was American arrogance and how little we really know of the world, our neighbors and the international community. He was of couse right but I did not alter the egotistical arrogance of my public career. ( I am much humbled in the private sector.) The following discussion on the NATO Conference is a case in point. To many this is a really big deal. I did not have a clue on first impression what was so important. These blogs are to inform me, share opinion and have a little fun. I learned a little more about the world, forgive me if it still does not show.[trb]
BUSH FORGOT LINES
President Bush threw theNATO summit meeting here off-script on Wednesday with his firm public disagreement with two key allies, Germany and France, over how close a relationship the organization should have with Ukraine and Georgia, who aspire to membership.[n]
President Bush was being abandoned by his closest allies last night as his appeal for Ukraine and Georgia to be earmarked for Nato membership met with opposition from Britain, France and Germany at the opening of the alliance summit in the Romanian capital. [t]
A LONE VOICE..NATO IS TO MAKE THE WORLD SAFER
Expanding NATO is meant to make the alliance's members safer. Allowing Skopje to become a NATO member while it claims that Northern Greece is occupied territory and Alexander the Great was a Skopje Slav won't really make the Alliance safer. Ukraine and Georgia's problems are different and their applications should be supported in the long-run, but in the short-run they should be given help to achieve internal stability (after all, half of the Ukraine doesn't want to join NATO, so what's the point of introducing that instability to the Alliance? Lionel Stokes, Westminster, England[t]
THE RUSKIES FORGED THE SPLIT
THEY COULD TURN DOWN THE HEAT
NO MORE KROUGHTS AND FROGS FOR DINNER.
IT MUST BE THE CHIPS
BIT OF MORE THAN HE COULD CHEW
American officials at the conference, run by the German Marshall Fund of the United States, said that any failure to support the action plan process would be regarded as a concession to Moscow. President Putin has strongly opposed any move to draw Ukraine and Georgia into the alliance. President Saakashvili of Georgia has also said that failure by Nato to offer the prospect of membership would amount to appeasement of Russia. [T]
NOT MUCH FAITH TO HOLD ON TO
But Mr. Bush was described by one senior American official as wanting to "lay down a marker" for his legacy as his presidency winds down, and as not wanting to "lose faith" with the Ukrainian and Georgian peoples and the other former republics of the Soviet Union.[n]
SUSHI
Mr. Bush, speaking in advance of the meeting, said he was prepared to argue his case at a dinner of all NATO leaders on Wednesday night, before a decision is made on Ukraine and Georgia on Thursday. Germany and France have said they will block any invitation to Ukraine and Georgia.[n]
ARGUED TO NO AVAIL
A NICE JESTURE
WHAT WAS SHE THINKING, THIS IS THE WMD GUY...
ARE THESE COUNTRIES ESTABLISHED ENOUGH FOR ACCESS TO THE COOKIE JAR
TRADITION IS TO TALK FIRST TO OUR ALLIES BEFORE WE INSULT THEM
LITTLE BUSINESS , LITTLE VODKA, ROPE A LITTLE BULL
THESE TWO COUNTRIES ADMISSIONS ARE LIKE GIVING A U.N. VOTE TO RHODE ISLAND AND CONNECTICUT
SOUNDS LIKE THE CAST OF TAXI
SMALL COUNTRIES GIVEN A LITTLE POWER ACT UP
THEY THINK BUSH COULD HAVE A POSITIVE LEGACY.
Ronald Asmus, who was a key figure in the Clinton administration’s enlargement of NATO and now runs the German Marshall Fund’s Brussels office, said that "Bush’s speech set up a dramatic battle that will be fought out over the next two days and whose outcome will be important in shaping his legacy, and America’s diplomatic standing in the alliance."[n]
Mr. Asmus said that success was possible short of the Membership Action Plan, but said that the summit needed to "send a strong enough signal to the countries to deepen their reforms and to Moscow not to increase its pressure on them." Failure, he said, "would be a statement that produces no pressure to reform and that Moscow reads as a pale green light to ratchet up the pressure."[n] Do ya think.[trb]
A RENDEZVOUS
THESE GUYS CAN‘T WALK IN THEIR SHOES....
A senior German official pointed out with some exasperation that Ms. Merkel was using the same argument now as Washington did then. But of course President Bush is not President Clinton, and President Putin is not President Boris Yeltsin, and Russia appears to be moving away from the West now, not toward it.[n]
CHENEY MUST NOT HAVE BEEN WITH BUSH
MORE TROOPS
PAINTED INTO A CORNER THEY ARE...
ANOTHER LONLEY VOICE
First of all Thanks to Nato for extending the invitation to Albania. While it is never right to strip someone off of their identity, Greece does have a valid point. I'm not sure if this should be used as a bargain tool for entry into a political and military alliance, however it is not right to claim the history of another and bear the name and glory of a different people. In addition Macedonia has not fully met the Ohrid agreement concerning the rights of its largest minority, the Albanians. Only two weeks ago the later, left their positions from the political alliance. These events make the country unstable to be considered a NATO ally. Perhaps by next NATO summit, these issues are resolved and FYROM will be a model state in the Balkans. Good luck! Darien, Tirana, Albania[T]
AND ANOTHER, MAYBE THERE ARE A LOTS OF THINKING PEOPLE OUT THERE
Well, as listening all of this comments I could say one thing, as a Croatian expat living in Skopje, Macedonia, I would ask you one question, who gives rights to any to say that Greeks have right to say who will be called who, the main Greek problem is that they Kicked out thousands of Macedonians during the 2 World war out of their homes and land from Macedonia in Greece, and they are afraid that Macedonians will claim their rights to give them back the land and the houses of 'Macedonia' seatled in Greece. It is also very true that wholle of this part of Macedonia belongs to Slavic Macedonians, Greeks knows that and are thretenning, According to the Bucurest treathy in 1912 Macedonia was divided in 3 parts, on 100 years Vardarian to Serbs, Ageian to Greeks and Pirinian to Bulgaria after 100 years it is ending in some years, and Greeks are afraid of this too. And on other side Greeks have problems with everybody, Albania, Turkey, Macedonia, all of their neighbours. No wonder they opose Johnny, Skopje, Macedonia[T]
OH, NO NOT A DESTABILIZED BALKINS. HERE COME THE BRITS
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Voice of America
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-02-voa60.cfm
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The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/03/world/europe/03nato.html?ref=world
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Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL0249940720080402
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Times
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3670335.ece
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Gulf News
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IS THERE STILL A WAR IN AFGHANISTAN?
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The ( New Zeland) Government decided to send more troops to Afghanistan because of the deteriorating security situation there, Prime Minister Helen Clark said today.[s]
THANK YOU NEW ZEALAND
Miss Clark and Defence Minister Phil Goff announced last night that an extra 18 personnel were being sent to Afghanistan to join New Zealand's Provincial Reconstruction team, (PRT) in Bamyan Province.[s]
Clark says New Zealand is very supportive of a political process which tries to get more people to put down their guns and argue things out through politics rather than have a shootout.[T]
Americans are caught up in their partisan bickering about both wars. What is overlook is the blood bring spilt for freedom by a varitey of international citizens.[trb]
The extra troops will be sent later this month and will lift the total strength of the PRT to a maximum of 140 personnel.[s]
PRIME MINISTER HELEN CLARK
The decision was announced by the Prime Minister Helen Clark, who is at the Nato leaders' summit on Afghanistan, taking place in Romania.[R]
TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GREAT COUNTRY OF NEW ZEALAND
New Zealand is a country in the south-western Pacific Ocean comprising two large islands (the North Island and the South Island) and numerous smaller islands, most notably Stewart Island/Rakiura and the Chatham Islands. The indigenous Māaori named New Zealand Aotearoa, which is usually translated into English as The Land of the Long White Cloud. The Realm of New Zealand also includes the Cook Islands and Niue, which are self-governing but in free association; Tokelau; and the Ross Dependency (New Zealand's territorial claim in Antarctica).[w]
New Zealand is notable for its geographic isolation, being separated from Australia to the northwest by the Tasman Sea, approximately 2000 kilometres (1250 miles) across. Its closest neighbours to the north are New Caledonia, Fiji and Tonga.[w]
The population is mostly of European descent, with the indigenous Māaori being the largest minority. Asians and non-Maori Polynesians are also significant minorities, especially in the cities. Elizabeth II, as the Queen of New Zealand, is the Head of State and, in her absence, is represented by a non-partisan Governor-General. The Queen 'reigns but does not rule.' She has no real political influence, and her position is essentially symbolic.[4] Political power is held by the democratically elected Parliament of New Zealand under the leadership of the Prime Minister, who is the Head of Government.[w]
ROCKETS, DRUG TRAFFICKING AND GENERAL RISE IN CRIMINALITY
"We've been reviewing security there in recent months following a deterioration in the situation, like a rocket attack on a nearby town, increased criminal and drug trafficking elements, and last weekend an improvised explosive device targeted one of our patrols," Miss Clark said.[s]
"We made the decision to increase our numbers prior to that because of our general concern about the spillover effect of instability in other provinces into the Bamyan area."[s]
A Defence Force patrol was caught up in an attack on Sunday, when an improvised explosive device blew up in Bamyan Province.[r2]
No one was hurt, but the front lights and windscreen of one of the twin cab hilux vehicles used by the Defence Force were damaged.[r2]
National's defence spokesperson Wayne Mapp says the Government should send some of the 105 Light Amoured Vehicles it bought.[r2]
Mr Mapp says Taliban activity is increasing and Defence Minister Phil Goff should ensure that New Zealand troops have amoured equipment.[r2]
Mr Goff says the Defence Force makes operational decisions and has advised that the vehicles are not required for the humanitarian mission in Afghanistan.[r2]
BUILDING SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS AND OTHER SERVICES
The PRT is helping local people by setting up schools, hospitals and other essential services.[s]
Miss Clark said the PRT had been fortunate because Bamyan had been one of the most stable areas of Afghanistan.[s]
THEY MUST PROTECT THEIR OWN PEOPLE
"Nonetheless, we see the potential for that to deteriorate a little and we thought the best thing we could do was increase our ability to look after the security of our own deployment there," she said on Radio New Zealand.[s]
Miss Clark announced the new deployment at a Nato meeting she is attending in Bucharest, where Afghanistan is being discussed.[s]
"It's a very mixed picture," she said.[s]
"More children are in schools, more roads are being put in, all those are positives but we've also seen a big growth in the opposition to the Afghan government and international forces over the last couple of years.[s]
Helen Clark has become the first New Zealand prime minister to attend a NATO summit.[Z]
WHY IS DRUG PRODUCTION , THAT LEADS TO DOMINATION IN THE WORLD HEROIN DEMAND , CONTINUING IN A CONQURED COUNTRY WITH THE FREE ARMIES OF THE WORLD THERE?
"The jury is out on whether things will get better or worse."[s]
BUT AMERICANS SHOULD THANK THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE HELPING IN THIS CAUSE.
I suggest taking a vacation to New Zealand, tell them thank you in person!
See: http://www.newzealand.com/USA/
“Welcome to the official site of Tourism New Zealand. Plan your New Zealand vacation here - discover new places, experiences and activities plus great deals, driving routes, accommodation, New Zealand maps and more.”[tnz]
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Stiff.CO.NZ
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4464544a11.html
[r]
Radio New Zealand News
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/latest/200804041004/4bd0e4f
[Z]
NEWSTALK.ZB
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/newsdetail1.asp?storyID=135114
[T]
Tvnz.co.nz
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/1685605
[R2]
Radio New Zealand News
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/latest/200804020714/3cbc8265
[w]
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand
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